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Old 07-27-2015, 08:08 AM   #26 (permalink)
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(This is no -704x, but for the sake of discussion...)

I also think it's completely aftermarket.
a) it's green. Original -729x were once greenish, but never that green and would now mostly be faded to gray.
b) the silver outline of the markers has sharp corners. Originally they are rounded.

See here (image taken from Isthmus' "How to buy a 6309 diver"):
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:16 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I see! I'm going to say it's fairly definitive that it's an aftermarket dial, and likely hands too. Cheers guys!
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The text isn't good either. The Water 150m Resist text looks crude and the 5 is nearly always wrong on AM dials. The dial code font isn't right and the Suwa emblem is crude.
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Old 09-11-2015, 04:15 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Great resource this and good work, much appreciated.
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Old 09-16-2015, 06:39 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Thanks for this thread.
A terrific and deepenig addition to the legendary "how to buy a seiko 6309 diver" thread by isthmus/gabe. Everybody who is new to this topic does benefit from this horn of plenty.
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Really useful particularly for a Seiko newb.

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Old 11-23-2015, 09:08 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Useful info. Appreciate this very much, Mr. Jones.
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Hi guys, I have question regarding Hong Kong casebacks and dial. I have 6309 with original dial 704 N (yes N!) T with small Suwa logo. The caseback is from 1983 without Japan, so do you think it can be proper, whole watch?
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Old 02-25-2016, 09:32 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Thanks for this reference.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:53 AM   #36 (permalink)
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On the topic of bevelled date windows and bad lighting:
We had a discussion about fake dials and this one was put forth by the owner (OldeCrow) as a fake one:

The obvious feature being the non-bevelled date window.

However, all other indicators seemed to point to an original one. OldeCrow then took new pics and voilà:

A nice bevel! And a good example on how the dial text should look on a later "cased HongKong" dial.

(Thanks OldeCrow for letting me use your pictures!)

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Hi guys, I have question regarding Hong Kong casebacks and dial. I have 6309 with original dial 704 N (yes N!) T with small Suwa logo. The caseback is from 1983 without Japan, so do you think it can be proper, whole watch?
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I've looked over this thread with much interest and noticed a difference between real and fake dials, I think, that may be helpful. It looks to me that on the line of text " WATER 150M RESIST" the middle horizontal line on each "E" in WATER and RESIST is shorter than the upper and lower horizontal lines on the real dials. On the fakes however all three horizontal lines on the "E" in WATER and RESIST are the same length. I could be completely wrong on this and please forgive me if this is the case. I am interested in buying the original and am just doing my homework. If my grades in high school and college are any indication, I am off my rocker with this observation.

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Old 04-12-2016, 06:14 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Don't forget when talking about the bevel round the day date window, the bevel is very slight and hard to see on the non suwa 6309 models.
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I've looked over this thread with much interest and noticed a difference between real and fake dials, I think, that may be helpful. It looks to me that on the line of text " WATER 150M RESIST" the middle horizontal line on each "E" in WATER and RESIST is shorter than the upper and lower horizontal lines on the real dials. On the fakes however all three horizontal lines on the "E" in WATER and RESIST are the same length. I could be completely wrong on this and please forgive me if this is the case. I am interested in buying the original and am just doing my homework. If my grades in high school and college are any indication, I am off my rocker with this observation.
Yes, this is true for the Loy fakes at least. But a good point and I'll add it to the trivia.

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Don't forget when talking about the bevel round the day date window, the bevel is very slight and hard to see on the non suwa 6309 models.
This is already in the trivia, right at the start under "Variants" and on this page shown with photos from OldenCrow.
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Nice write up definitely learned a few things
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Very good and informative reading. Great post! Thank you.
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Wow I learn something new every day
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Great post.Thank you.
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Evening Mr. Jones,
I sent you a PM and then figured I'd post it here for the forum as well in case they might be of assistance / or any info. exchange might assist them as well.............I have what I believe to be an all original January 1976 6309-7049 Seiko Diver........Any chance you can help? Serial #160581. Would make it the 581st 6309-7049 ever made.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.

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Evening Mr. Jones,
I sent you a PM and then figured I'd post it here for the forum as well in case they might be of assistance / or any info. exchange might assist them as well.............I have what I believe to be an all original January 1976 6309-7049 Seiko Diver........Any chance you can help? Serial #160581. Would make it the 581st 6309-7049 ever made.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.

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No it's not as early as that. The serial number is from June 1981.
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Evening Mr. Jones,
I sent you a PM and then figured I'd post it here for the forum as well in case they might be of assistance / or any info. exchange might assist them as well.............I have what I believe to be an all original January 1976 6309-7049 Seiko Diver........Any chance you can help? Serial #160581. Would make it the 581st 6309-7049 ever made.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.

Jeff D'Amico
Hey Jeff, I answered you with the same info Jim provided: Seiko's serials give the year first and the month second.

January 1976 would be very early, as the 6309 replaced the 6105 "in 1976" - I've got a 6105-8110 from mid-1976 (I think), so my guess is that even if the 6309 divers were introduced in 1976, it would not have been in January...

Has anyone found out what the earliest production dates were for these?
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Very nice post and super informative. Thanks.
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This thread helped make my wallet lighter
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Hi ,
I am fairly new in to Seiko vintage world but i kinda did my homework before buying the piece.
i would like to raise two questions with your permission .
1.Does it looks like a relume job or even a redial?
2. If i pull the crown out , the seconds hand stops and from what i read , it should not be the case on this movement. Any ideas ?
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