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Old 07-10-2019, 07:16 PM   #476 (permalink)
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I belong to a few Vietnam Vet sites and on one of them, MACV-SOG, I posted my Seikos and asked for recollections on what was worn, what was "issued", and what was available privately in country.

Here are some of my responses, straight from the Vets themselves.

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"I had a Seiko There was a sergeant major In Nutrang Add special forces headquarters that sold them I think he had the Franchise his last name I believe was Dunaway"

"Self-winding Seiko, issued by S-4 at FOB 2 Kontum. The watch-face glowed so brightly at night you could read your weapon's serial number with it!"

"I had a Seiko for the field, Rolex GMT Master for garrison."

"Was issued Sieko watches. Mine was destroyed in the attack on
CCN 23 Aug 68."


"C Co and A-103, CCS, always wore a Seiko Kenetic, no bats [batteries], had Rolex but only wore stateside for dress up. Still wear a seiko today divers watch, sometime after xmas good sales on Amazon. Paid 250 for my last one, still happy with it."

All quotes from soldiers that fought as SOG.

~Mark

Excellent! IMO this is the Best New Information on Seiko's being issued to MACV SOG and used in Vietnam since this thread was begun. Thank You for all your hard work and effort. As all of us on the SCWF already know there are some people who like to pretend that they are someone that they are not. What makes this information so important is that you got it directly from MACV SOG Veterans themselves. The Seiko Connection to SOG is getting stronger every day. It looks like there is enough information and solid leads to keep you busy for a very long time. Please keep us posted with any additional information or photos that you find.

This is a Very Exciting Development. Excellent!

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"Was issued Sieko watches. Mine was destroyed in the attack on
CCN 23 Aug 68."


This quote is especially fascinating as it is referring to the attack on the CCN compound in Da Nang.

On August 23 1968 over 100 elite NVA commandos silently slipped under the barbed wire that marked the outer defenses of the US Special Forces compound in Da Nang. The carefully planned and well executed attack began at 3 am with NVA sappers throwing explosive satchel charges and grenades into barracks and command centers and then opening fire with AK47s. For the next three hours Green Berets and indigenous troops working with the MACV SOG Recon Teams battled the attackers throughout the compound. By dawn the raid was over and 17 Green Berets had been killed (many killed in their sleep). It was the largest single day loss of Green Berets in Vietnam.

US Special Forces CCN building in Da Nang damaged during the attack. NVA sapper killed during the daring attack lying on the ground in front of the building.



US Special Forces CCN Compound at Da Nang - this photo was taken later in 1970 after fortifications were increased.


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Excellent! IMO this is the Best New Information on Seiko's being issued to MACV SOG and used in Vietnam since this thread was begun. Thank You for all your hard work and effort. As all of us on the SCWF already know there are some people who like to pretend that they are someone that they are not. What makes this information so important is that you got it directly from MACV SOG Veterans themselves. The Seiko Connection to SOG is getting stronger every day. It looks like there is enough information and solid leads to keep you busy for a very long time. Please keep us posted with any additional information or photos that you find.

This is a Very Exciting Development. Excellent!
You're welcome. I was very happy to read these reports direct from the SOG vets themselves, and knew that I had to share the info here. There were other watches worn as well, but I was after confirmation regarding our Seikos and the story that goes with them.

If more quotes come in, I'll post them as well.
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I see currently there is a white dial, gold cased 7005-8030 on Ebay.



***UPDATE 7/14......Sold at auction for $152

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Now THIS is intriguing.....


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Default Finale'

OK I promise I'm done, and broke!
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Wonderful Collection of SOG Watches and Vietnam Wrist Compasses. I see you found the Very Hard to Find WPIC.

Done

I don't see

6119-8100
6119-8101
6119-8101 SS/SS
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Silly me, did I say done? I meant for now, until the next one comes up that I can't live without

Thanks Kyle
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Silly me, did I say done? I meant for now, until the next one comes up that I can't live without
Roger That
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I found this photo on the web. Not my watch... but I like it

Down and Dirty - Cheap and Raw - Jungle Patina!

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Cool. I like the strap too!
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RESPECT, PURE RESPECT.
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Default Macv sog watches

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MACV SOG Graphic Art courtesy of David Paul Seymour

David was commissioned privately by the son of a Vietnam Veteran who served with MACV SOG to create his own unique Doom Metal version based on the original MACV SOG unit patch.


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Very Cool!
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Default my 8100 has arrived

Special Delivery today. My 6119~8100 arrived. That was the last of the BIG 3 to find. Needs a new crystal, once replaced I think the face will be beautiful. Lume is like new. Case has wear as expected, but that just shows character IMO.


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1969 6106~8219
1967 6619~8060
1968 6119~8100
1969 7005~8030
1969 7005~8030 White

Now to re coup some of my money Time to sell my two doubles, 7005 & 6619.
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Default John Stryer Meyer's - Across The Fence - Seiko reference

Howdy. For my first post, I figured I'd contribute something (hopefully) meaningful.

I like watches and love military history and stumbled upon this site after finishing reading John Meyer's Across The Fence (2011). Meyer was a C&C guy with MACV-SOG and saw quite a bit of action in 68-69 in Cambodia and Laos. Great book BTW for insight to those missions.

As far as relevance to this forum thread, I found this interesting tidbit in chapter sixteen which is aptly named "Stuff We Carried, Stuff We Didn't Carry":

On my right wrist I wore a black, self-winding, luminescent Seiko watch, which was so bright at night that I wore it face down on the bottom of my wrist, under my glove. Thus, even in the pitch-black jungle, I knew when to make communications checks with the airborne command aircraft, usually at midnight, or at 2 a.m.

Also interesting is that he carried 34 loaded mags (18 rounds per for 612 total rounds) for his CAR15 in addition to a PRC25 radio. Plus hand grenades, a sawed-off M79 with 40mm grenades, claymore(s), C4 and some other gear topping off around 90lbs. Those guys represented the definition of loaded for bear.

At any rate, great book with a cool historic watch reference that hopefully adds something additional to an already informative thread.
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Now that is very interesting!
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Howdy. For my first post, I figured I'd contribute something (hopefully) meaningful.

I like watches and love military history and stumbled upon this site after finishing reading John Meyer's Across The Fence (2011). Meyer was a C&C guy with MACV-SOG and saw quite a bit of action in 68-69 in Cambodia and Laos. Great book BTW for insight to those missions.

As far as relevance to this forum thread, I found this interesting tidbit in chapter sixteen which is aptly named "Stuff We Carried, Stuff We Didn't Carry":

On my right wrist I wore a black, self-winding, luminescent Seiko watch, which was so bright at night that I wore it face down on the bottom of my wrist, under my glove. Thus, even in the pitch-black jungle, I knew when to make communications checks with the airborne command aircraft, usually at midnight, or at 2 a.m.

Also interesting is that he carried 34 loaded mags (18 rounds per for 612 total rounds) for his CAR15 in addition to a PRC25 radio. Plus hand grenades, a sawed-off M79 with 40mm grenades, claymore(s), C4 and some other gear topping off around 90lbs. Those guys represented the definition of loaded for bear.

At any rate, great book with a cool historic watch reference that hopefully adds something additional to an already informative thread.
Thanks for the excellent reference. More documentation of another MACV SOG wearing a Seiko SOG

MACV SOG John Stryker Meyer


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Wow, I found this in a store today with a $40 price tag on it. I took a photo and put it back, nonplussed. I'm not sure which ref it is, but I guess I should go back and buy it. Epic thread gentlemen. I've only skimmed it, but I'll do a full read soon. Thank you for your service 🇺🇸
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Wow, I found this in a store today with a $40 price tag on it. I took a photo and put it back, nonplussed. I'm not sure which ref it is, but I guess I should go back and buy it. Epic thread gentlemen. I've only skimmed it, but I'll do a full read soon. Thank you for your service

You should buy it if it is still there...
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Lt. Gen. Richard Stilwell inspects MACV SOG Recon Team Idaho 1-0 Team Leader John Stryker Meyer at CCN April 1969.

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