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Old 01-22-2017, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A year or so ago I got a 6106-8440 from Japan. It came with a coffin link bracelet, which I never used. I wear it from time to time on a leather cuff band when working around the house or whatever. The case shows some wear and the crystal is pretty beat up but I really like the design, especially the case. I think it deserves to be freshened up with a new crystal, and it's on my work list.
It's part of the Actus line, and the "SS" I think indicates "seconds setting" or "stop seconds" which reflects the hacking function of the 6106. In my opinion the dial is also a nice design. It's not black, more of a dark charcoal gray with a sunburst when the light hits it.
I did not modify this watch, it's still just the way it's shown in these photos, which is how I got it. I took these using my little portable photo booth, it actually works pretty well. I'm including the description and pics of the 6106-8440 just as some background information.

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In the course of working on a 6105 diver case for @aquaman, I noticed he sent along a caseback from a 6106-8449. I figured this would be the same case design as the 6106-8440 that I like so i asked if he had the case. He said he had two of them, and we worked out a deal so I could get one. He sent both so I could choose, then he generously decided I could keep both. Thanks Mike!
He even included the movements too. He had acquired these for the dials, which he put to good use in his "bluefin" mods. View the thread here if you haven't seen it- very nice.
https://www.thewatchsite.com/20-mod-r...iler-pics.html

I spent a few hours refinishing both cases as near as possible to original, using my -8440 as a reference. Here's one of them, with a new aftermarket crystal installed.

More to follow a bit later, my kids want to use the desktop computer for homework. Who waits until Sunday afternoon to do their homework??
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So the cases came out ok. One was pretty beat up like my -8440, the other looked to be in very good condition. On closer inspection though, it had been polished. The lines had lost some definition and the circular brushing on the top surface was missing, so I didn't feel bad reworking it. They both had some deep nicks that I didn't completely remove, it would have required taking off too much material.

I had purchased a Vintage Trinity dial and handset from Yobokies about a year ago, just because I liked it. I didn't have any definite plans for it, but I figured something would pop up that would be a good fit. The dial has triangular markers at 12,3,9 and 6. I got the no-date version.

The design owes a lot to the early Eterna Kontiki, and the Zodiac Seawolf, both of which I like. I'm sure many of you have already spotted a big problem on the horizon with this plan. The Yobokies dial is made to fit the 7S26 movement, not the 6106. The dial pins had to be relocated. I'm not too confident in dial dots as a long-term solution so I decided to try soldering on new dial feet. I had some copper rod on hand in a suitable diameter, and an old 61 series mainplate to help with alignment. Even so, it took a couple of attempts. The first one was fine, except is was misaligned by a degree or two.
In the end, I was mostly successful. There was a little heat damage which I was able to touch up but had I expected this for my first ever attempt. I gave myself a grade of B+ on this part of the project, with room for improvement.

I decided to keep the original polished chapter/reflector ring, as it seems to fit the look of the dial.

I had several choices for the crystal. In the end I went with a high-dome G-S acrylic from TipTop Crystals. I think it is a good match with the dial design.

So here's how it turned out- not perfect but it I like it and it was a fun project. I hope you guys like it and thanks for reading. I'll post one more with the strap I put on it.

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As promised, here's the strap I chose (for now!) It's a Bonetto Cinturini model 300D in 20mm, carefully narrowed to fit the 19mm lug gap in the 6106 case. I may change to something else later, but I like this one. The natural rubber is very high quality, and I prefer a divers style clasp to a buckle.
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So the cases came out ok. One was pretty beat up like my -8440, the other looked to be in very good condition. On closer inspection though, it had been polished. The lines had lost some definition and the circular brushing on the top surface was missing, so I didn't feel bad reworking it. They both had some deep nicks that I didn't completely remove, it would have required taking off too much material.

I had purchased a Vintage Trinity dial and handset from Yobokies about a year ago, just because I liked it. I didn't have any definite plans for it, but I figured something would pop up that would be a good fit. The dial has triangular markers at 12,3,9 and 6. I got the no-date version.

The design owes a lot to the early Eterna Kontiki, and the Zodiac Seawolf, both of which I like. I'm sure many of you have already spotted a big problem on the horizon with this plan. The Yobokies dial is made to fit the 7S26 movement, not the 6106. The dial pins had to be relocated. I'm not too confident in dial dots as a long-term solution so I decided to try soldering on new dial feet. I had some copper rod on hand in a suitable diameter, and an old 61 series mainplate to help with alignment. Even so, it took a couple of attempts. The first one was fine, except is was misaligned by a degree or two.
In the end, I was mostly successful. There was a little heat damage which I was able to touch up but had I expected this for my first ever attempt. I gave myself a grade of B+ on this part of the project, with room for improvement.

I decided to keep the original polished chapter/reflector ring, as it seems to fit the look of the dial.

I had several choices for the crystal. In the end I went with a high-dome G-S acrylic from TipTop Crystals. I think it is a good match with the dial design.

So here's how it turned out- not perfect but it I like it and it was a fun project. I hope you guys like it and thanks for reading. I'll post one more with the strap I put on it.

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wow...u do amazing work...very well done...really like it
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Thanks guys! This one was fun to do and not too expensive.
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well those are the most fun too...hey i really need some love like that on a new doxa mod i am doing....
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Steve, those all look great and those are some great photos too!

Really love the dial you chose. Working on a dial feet relocation myself right now too.

Trying to find a way to keep the dial cold while re-soldering the feet.

Also have to tell you that your case refinishing work here is amazing.

Really great outcome here. What were ths odds of all this coming together the way it did?

When I bought those two watches, I bought them specifically for the dial and didn't really pay any attention to the actual model number. Then, just by pure chance, I send you the Steam Punk to work on and put the 6106-8449 case back on it so you could try the watch on with the correct strap after you drilled the new lug holes.

Then, you see that case back and it turns out that you wanted this case for the case.

I mean, what are the odds of that? Amazing!

Great work here Steve!

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Mike that is amazing and your watches look great thanks to amazing work by Steve !
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Mike- I did struggle with the dial feet soldering. I didn't get any heat damage the first time, but then I had to cut those off and start over due to very slight misalignment. I think if I had it to do over again I could get it first try. I need to point out that the Yobokies dial is very good quality and more durable than I expected. I did have to open up the hole in the minute hand slightly but I don't think that's too unusual.

I really liked that dial design as soon I saw it. I bought it and set it aside until the right candidate arrived. That happened by chance when you sent that caseback to me and I noticed the reference number! I'm guessing you just grabbed the nearest 61 series caseback that wasn't being used for anything important and sent it-sometimes things just work out. I didn't service the movement, it's keeping time ok but the amplitude is only around 180 or so. I guess I'll have to do that when I have time.

Harold also has another dial that's similar. I think he calls it the "poker" dial, it looks lot like an Oris sixty-five. I still have the other case too...

Thanks for the words of encouragement, and big thanks for helping make this one happen!

How's that 6105 coming along?

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Mike- I forgot to add this. If you have any questions about the dial feet soldering, send me an email or message on here. I'll be glad to help if I can.

I'm far from an expert, but I've learned some ways NOT to do it! It helps to have some old junk dials for practice. I thought about building one of those resistance soldering outfits but it seemed like a lot of work for one dial so I didn't do it. My best advice is to get the alignment right the first time.

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Your case work is outstanding! What equipment do you use?

Love the Trinity dial, a great choice combined with the case and and hands, the end result is excellent, inspiring stuff, cheers!
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Your case work is outstanding! What equipment do you use?

Love the Trinity dial, a great choice combined with the case and and hands, the end result is excellent, inspiring stuff, cheers!
Thank you! I have some case finishing jigs and fixtures that I made. It's always a work in progress, but I learn a little more every time. I posted about it here when I was just getting started with it, I think 2014. I've definitely learned some things since then.

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Great stuff! I love that dial more and more every time I see it. With the right case and band it's hard to beat. It hits that sweet spot between retro and contemporary.
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Love the triangles, great work
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