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Default Orient Star Classic WZ0241EL

Orient Star WZ0241EL
A review.



This post is a background to the purchase of the watch. Some may may be interested, other not. If you want to get straight to the watch review, please skip this post and go to the next one where the actual review starts.

2009 was a turning point in my life. Dissatisfied with my career in broadcast television and radio, I immigrated to Australia and decided a fresh start is what I needed. Within months I decided I couldnít face such work anymore, even in a new country, so I made to decision to turn my back on media, study at university and become a school teacher. It was going to take 4 years, give or take a few months. I decided that a graduation gift to myself was in order, and being very interested in watches, decided that an Omega Speedmaster would be a fitting way to mark the occasion.

Years passed. Study went well, but the cost of study and living on part time wages ate away at my savings. I realized that the Speedmaster was going to have to wait, and started to look around for something that was going to be more affordable. A chance encounter on with a Seiko SARB065 Cocktail Time on another watch forum made me start to take notice of Japanese watches.

I love that watch, but it was too nice for everyday use, and I wanted something that I could put on for most occasions without feeling over or underdressed. Then I looked at the Seiko SARB017 Alpinist.

Now there was a watch I liked! Great looking, a striking green dial, good movement, and good price - it was on my short list. I knew not to stop thee though and continued my explorations. Nothing else was grabbing me. Then, courtesy of this forum, I discovered Orient. Specifically the WZ Orient Star Classic series. It was a tie between the Orient Star WZ0241EL and 02451EL.


My thirst for pictures and reviews on these watches could not be satisfied. As they are JDM models, the internet was the only way I could inspect them without taking delivery of one. I searched high and low, then came across these videos by Watch Tanaka that were exactly what I was looking for.
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My decision had been made more difficult. I wanted them all!
Graduation was upon me, and it was time to decide. By now I was married Ė to a Japanese, which for obvious reasons was going to be very helpful when it came to the purchase. Then luck struck. My brother in law announced he was visiting us from Japan. Perfect Ė he could bring the watch. I had to make a decision. I was leaning strongly towards the Alpinist and sat down one night to mull over this. I hesitated, then had an epiphany. I canít wear it. I canít. It looks amazing, the green dial is beautiful, but deep down I know that when getting dressed I would take it back off to put another watch on because I felt that it didnít suit the occasion more often than I would actually wear it. With a heavy heart, I crossed the Alpinist off the list.
That left the two Orient Stars. I was torn, so I asked my wife what she thought. She (as I) was struck by the blue hands of the 0241 so in one decisive swoop, I struck the 0251 off the list. It was done. My wife contacted my brother in law, he found the watch in Akihabara and all systems were go.

Disaster struck. You know the modern car keys Ė you know the ones with the built in alarm remote and key that flips out when you press the button? Most cars have them now. My wifeís 2013 Hyundai (fantastic value for money, I must say) has one. One. You see it used to have two, until I lost one. ďNever mindĒ I said, ďIíll get another one this weekĒ. Now, do you have any idea how much these freaking keys cost to replace? I didnít think it would be cheap, but not five hundred dollars. Five hundred! I ducked out to the front of the dealership and looked at the signage to make sure I hadnít walked in to the Bentley dealership instead of Hyundai. It was Hyundai all right. My graduation gift evaporated before my eyes. I was crestfallen. My wife sent the message that night to cancel the purchase.

Fast forward several weeks, and I was already thinking about the day in the future when would finally be able to get my watch. One day we walked past the local watch shop and I looked in the window. I know the Tissot Visodate was getting high praise, and it was affordable.

There was one in the window, and it indeed looked handsome. The only thing I didnít really like it that fact itís a day date. I like to have the date, but the day is an annoyance for me. I donít wear the same watch often enough to keep it fully wound and therefore keep the day changer working. Having to reset the date I donít mind, but the day is something I can do without. Otherwise, I was impressed. The internet is great for online purchases and such, but actually holding the object of your desire still cannot be beaten. I went in and held the watch. I thought I had my new graduation gift, and only a couple of hundred dollars more than the Orient. It would have to wait at least six months though.
I forgot about the whole business and got on with my life. My brother in law arrived from Japan. As is customary in Japan, you always bring gifts to people you visit. I was quietly hoping to be the recipient of a good bottle of sake. He reached in to his bag and gave me a small box. Ok, no sake. I opened it, and was dumbstruck to be facing an Orient Star box. IN his broken English, my brother in law said he heard about the key fiasco, felt sorry for me and he and my wife got the watch anyway as a graduation gift for me. I was dumbstruck. I shook his hand a few times, kissed my wife a few times, and slipped it on my wrist.
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Orient Star line of watches sits in the mid-range bracket of the Orient product pine, with hackable, hand winding movements and higher level finishing. This watch has the 40N51 movement. There is plenty of information already on the internet about this movement, so I wonít repeat it here.
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This watch is part of the Orient Star Classic range, which is a nod to the 1950/60s. The case is round, and with a diameter of 38.5mm would be considered smallish by todayís standards. As a guy with stick thin wrists (damn my ultra-fast metabolism!) and 186cm of height, large chunky watches took ridiculous on me. For me, this size is good. The sides of the case are polished to a high standard of finish, while the tops of the lugs (20mm) are brushed. Itís a very subtle contrasting effect. Itís a shame the lugs are drilled, as the holes ruin the smooth transition from case to lug.
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The crown is the true to period Ė a slightly domed affair signed the Orient Star logo. It is finely knurled for grip and I must say has a great feel Ė I have found that crowns that are squared off (on modern watches) with fine knurls tend to dig in to the tips of your fingers when you grip them. This one is very comfortable to wind, and the large diameter means you get more wind for your turn. There is one issue though: if you put the watch up to a light and look directly at the dial, you will see a gap between the crown and case, even with the crown fully pushed in. Itís small, but itís there. Whether this is due to the crown, or the case, Iím not sure. I would have thought that Orient would have got it sitting flush though, or perhaps this clearance is deliberate to reduce friction when winding.
The bezel is sloped and highly polished, and if you look carefully between bezel and case at 8 oíclock, you will see very fine machined groove. When I say fine, I mean very fine. I thought it was a speck of dust at first until I inspected it with a loupe after it wouldnít rub off. This no doubt is for removing the bezel in the same way you remove a snap case back: stick in a sharp tool and lever it off. The logical conclusion that can be drawn form this is that the bezel is friction fit. The bezel slopes at an angle and segues nicely in to the edge of the crystal, which continues the slope for a few millimetres, then gracefully curves inwards towards the centre.
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Apparently the crystal is mineral. I donít really care whether it is sapphire or mineral, although I know some people do. For a sapphire crystal to be tougher and more scratch resistant, it needs to be harder and less flexible. I am the door bashing type of watch wearer Ė Iím not blessed with great spatial awareness and can (and do, from time to time) bash my watch against the frame of a door as I walk through. If youíre going to knock your watch on a regular basis like I do, your crystal will need a bit of give. Mineral crystals will have that. The curves at the edge of the crystal do distort the dial and hands at certain angles, which is typical of crystals of this type. I donít think this is an issue though Ė if you want to see the dial undistorted, just move your wrist so you can look directly at the dial.
Moving on to the dial. True the era that inspires the watch, the dial is slightly domed and has an almost pie pan look about it. It is relatively flat from the centre to the indices, sloping away downwards to the edges to create clearance for the hands and crystal. The dial is white, with a very subtle sunburst effect. Very subtle, but I like it. Silver indices accent the white, with a silver applied Orient Star logo. The date window is rimmed with an applied silver detail, so thin that it rarely reflects light. The power reserve markings are in increments of five hours, and the power reserve track (for lack of a better term. If you have a better term please let me know and Iíll amend this) is sunk in to the dial to contrast and give some depth to an elegantly sparse dial. Minute markings, all caps Orient Star lettering and the power reserve increments are all printed. It looks very well done. One drawback of this dial is the depth of the date wheel. Itís so deep in the date window that you either obscure top or bottom of the date displayed unless you are looking from directly on front of the window. If itís the 11th, then you wonít notice. Any other date, you canít help but notice. Unlike the aforementioned crystal distortion, I feel this could have been avoided. Oh Ė no lume. If you want lume, then this isnít the watch for you. But letís be honest here, how often do 98% of us find ourselves with so little light that we actually need it? IN the 10 days that Iíve had this watch, I have not found myself in lighting conditions in the city (where I guess most of us live) where I couldnít make out the time, even with the lights out in a room at night. Itís very hard to get total darkness when you live in the city.
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The hands. Ah Ė the hands. Like every owner says, the blue hands are quite something. They glow with an almost neon intensity, and yes, it is very difficult to take a photo that does them justice. Iím no watch expert, but Iím going to be bold and argue that although these hands are blue, they are not blued in the watchmakers sense. I believe that they have not been heat treated to attain their spectacular intensity. Upon closer inspection with a loupe, I noticed that the colour intensifies and increases depth towards the middle of the hand, and is noticeably less (but still very blue) towards the edges. My theory is that the hands are painted in a blue lacquer, which pools away from the edges of the hand due to surface tension. By chance, when I was looking at the hands under with the loupe I noticed the refection of the underside of the hand in the silver indices. The undersides of the hands are white. My theory doesnít detract from the striking beauty of the hands. They really are special and lift the watch from looking good, to looking amazing.
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Turning the watch over, and you can admire the movement through the display caseback. Is the caseback mineral or sapphire? I have no idea, but if the crystal is mineral then the caseback is likely to be mineral too. The movement is decorated with perlage on the plates and rotor. It looks well executed and certainly adds an air of quality to the finishing. This may be splitting hairs, but I find the screws in the movement almost detract from the overall look. There is nothing wrong with them, but I feel that Orient could have done more with them. Unlike the plates and rotor, they have no finessing at all and stand out because of that. Ok, they are polished so I am being a little harsh in my criticism. Some blueing though would have really set the movement apart, but at an extra cost.
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Iíve been monitoring the performance of the movement over the last 5 days and it averages at +7 seconds a day. That will be roughly less than a minute a week. This is good enough for me, so Iím happy with the performance. The auto winding module does its job well. I can go from half power to full power with roughly three hours of normal day to day activities on the wrist. As others have mentioned in other Orient reviews, it is very satisfying to watch the power reserve indicator climb as you wind the watch. Which, by the way, is a very smooth winding watch.
The bracelet is very good, with solid links in a contrasting brushed and polished pattern. Iím considering investing in a leather strap Š la WZ0251EL, and putting the bracelet away for safe keeping. Others have reported issues with fitting the bracelet and the lack of micro adjusters. I was very fortunate to be able to slip the watch on my wrist straight from the box and have it almost fit perfectly. I changed the position of the micro adjuster and the watch fitted perfectly, with no links having to be added or removed.
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My overall impression of the watch is that it is very, very good. Not perfect, but the drawbacks I noted are minor. I like the fact that I have no hesitation putting this watch on for nearly any occasion. It has a dignified, understated elegance about it, like a good looking guy who doesnít feel the need to have to shout it from the rooftops. Hublot Big Bang this ainít. I like that in a watch. Although a dress watch, I would have no hesitation in slipping it on to go to the cafť to read the paper on a Sunday morning or to take my son to the local playground. Itís a watch for those who appreciate watches. Itís a watch that invites inspection. Value for money? Absolutely. Recommended? Very much so.
Thank you for reading, and I hope this review is useful.
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Thanks for the review, and the excellent story of how you got it.
That is one super looking Orient Star!
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Default Congrats Soulboy - Outstanding Orient Star review

Truly enjoyed your detailed review and the backstory. Your story adds meaning to the final selection and outcome. I have a similar Orient Star with blue hands that I eventually fitted with a black crock leather strap. In my case, it works so well because the dark strap complemented the dark blue hands and added a new dimension to the watch by minimizing metal glitz and makes the attractive dial stand out even more!

Thanks for all the time it took to write up such an interesting journey in time!

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Thanks guys, it was a pleasure to write. I got a lot of ideas and inspiration from this review:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f67/tis...ew-459020.html

(I hope it's ok to link to another forum)
It's the best review of any watch I have read. It's balanced (too many blog "reviews" are advertorials that don't really say anything at all), informative and has great pics.

I'm certainly enjoying this watch. Like a lot of watches, the photos don't really do it justice. IT looks far better in real life.

Lexcalibre, I was thinking of getting a black strap for this watch. Do you have any pics of yours? I'd like to see it.

Thanks again.

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Default Orient Star on black strap as requested by Soulboy

I do not have pic of croc strap, but enclosed is photo of prior black strap. I initially tried a dark blue strap, but did not look as classic as black strap.

The croc strap looks even better due to the croc textured pattern of the strap. Also depending on the lighting, the hands look darker making them match the black strap - a very nice complement.

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Looks good. I notice the different font and logo on yours. How old is it? Is it a jdm model?

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Looks good. I notice the different font and logo on yours? How old is it? Is it a jdm model?

Also the hands are different - but still both blue. JDM 4 year old model.

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these 2 are not the same watch model.
Both look great.
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great watch..
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Default Update 18th Feb

Update 18th February 2014

After a month of wearing this watch, here is an update on impressions and performance.
Itís no secret this is a handsome watch, and a few friends who are not watch collectors have commented on it. Iím more than happy with the looks and performance of the watch so far.
I was at my watch makers picking up a vintage Bulova and he noticed the Orient Star on my wrist. After a careful inspection, he said it was a ďwell-made mass produced watchĒ, which I think is a fair assessment. He also said that I would get sick of wearing it before I managed to wear it out, which is a testament to the build quality and quality of components. He commented on the movement as well. He noted the shock protection was Seiko, and said the balance wheel looks 100% Seiko. Hardly surprising as Seiko is the parent company, and the two have already been swapping parts and movements. Overall he said the movement made him think of a late 1960s Seiko movement.
Now the movement has had some time to settle and stabilise, we put it on the timing machine and my very unscientific and rough measurement of +7 seconds per day was surprisingly accurate. We tested it in several positions, and the best performance was +2 per day! I donít remember the position of the watch at that point. The worst performance was +10 per day. So the average is about +8. This is a fantastic result and beyond my expectations.
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Wow. Great review and photos. Very comprehensive. Keep up the great posts!

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Excellent Review and Beautiful watch you have there, love the hands.

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Great watch.

Big Orient Star fan here, I have 6+1 incoming currently and looks like I will continue to expand this "line"

Orient Star watches have quite simply disrupted the rest of my collection to the point where they're monopolizing it or should I say forming and oligopoly.

Really, it's hard to beat them in quality/feel vs. price.

I know it's a bit silly to have 2-3 watches in my collection with the same movement, little diversification, but I love them THAT much

What I'm worried about is sticking to the 10 watch rule that will leave extremely little space for anything else (the Alpinist is here to stay as well)

I don't know if I'll ever grow out of this OS phase but so far they have all been faithful workhorse, with accuracy ranging from 7-8 seconds per day in the "worst" one to a crazy 4-6 sec/week in my best one
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I'd like to see yours dan,,feel free to post a review!
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Great watch & interesting review.
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Congrats, great watch. I know, cause I own similar one
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Hi Rafi, that's a handsome watch. Still loving mine..
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Here is my older version, around 2000 made ...with the older font...
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Great watch, thanks for the review
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affordable but quite impressive spec
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Here is my older version, around 2000 made ...with the older font...
I love the cream dial.
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Where's the wrist shot so we can see how it wears?
Enjoyed the story
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Wow, what a nice watch.
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