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Old 04-13-2015, 08:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default My 27th Eco-Drive, titanium, radio-controlled BY0080-57E

As you might guess from the number of E-Ds I have, I'm a big fan and have been for years. I've seven 210/2100s alone. But, until now I haven't had a radio- nor satellite-controlled watch. So, I thought I should rectify this short-coming and did so with this watch.

First, I believe I should say something about the radio-controlled aspects of the watch, though I'm sure there are probably many more reviews of these here by now... please, forgive any redundancies since I've been away from the Forum for some time, being involved with tooooo many other things. Anyway... being in the U.S. and quite some distance from the Colorado-based radio-signal transmitter I was concerned about how well, if at all, the watch would receive synchronization info. I found the instructions for a manual synch to be mostly clear and simple. The only problem was that the Instruction Manual did not say how I would know when the synch was completed since the watch resets during the process in a number of steps and can take "two to 15 minutes." The first time I tried the synch I unknowingly ended it before the watch had completed the process. So, just as the synch commences with a chime, it also ends with one... and, nowhere does the text say this, that I found. However, it does synch automatically at 2:00 am and tries again at 3 and 4 if the earlier one(s) fails for some reason. Now, the most pleasant surprise... even in North Louisiana the signal strength indicator displayed as "Strong!"

Cosmetically, the watch has an all black dial and in pictures of it on the Web the bezel around the bottom sub-dial looks to be white but it and all the rest of the dial decorations are "chrome," which pleased me when I got it. Lume is as one expects with Citizen, in my opinion... in other words, very good. The controls are easy to operate and the clasp has a delightful, but for me, unexpected feature: a pair of buttons to adjust the bracelet size by a slight amount "on the go" without tools of any sort. The only down-side of this is that there are now TWO sets of buttons on each side of the clasp, one pair to unhook the bracelet and a second to adjust it. Initially, I kept pushing the wrong pair to take it off. But, one learns, even an ol' codger like myself! Also, being a JDM model it comes with a sapphire crystal and nicely forged back, but only a one-year international warranty; such are the tradeoffs.

The watch wears nicely, but has the now fairly common pin&collar bracelet-link removal system. The first time I encountered such many years ago I lost one of the miniscule collars. Fore-armed with info is forewarned and thus no problem now.

My only gripe about the watch now (I've not had it long) is that like so many "do nearly everything" watches it is complex to adjust and use and/or set many of its functions. And, as I said previously the Manual is not always as clear as would be helpful. (No, there was no CD, but one for my Minute Repeaters left out a required setting-step, anyway) Also, VERY small indicators for some functions on the dial do not help old eyes. I suppose control of complex watches and functions with only a very few mechanisms (crowns and push-pieces) dictate a high degree of complexity... but, that said, I use my 210/2100s as my travel watches partly because one doesn't need to refer to a Manual to do anything with them! Wish that others were that way, but I suppose this is the price of ever more functions and complexity.

I think I'm really going to like this watch but it won't replace the 210/2100s on the road. All the best!
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very nice watch. You make me have to consider between Nighthawk Titanium and this one
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Just an update/addition... the bezel is 44mm across (I didn't intend to deal with specs since anyone can google the model number and find them from Citizen) with a knurled edge. The knurling is purely aesthetic to compliment (not match, since it's larger) the knurling on the crowns because the bezel doesn't rotate. However, the internal calculator bezel does rotate with the 8:00 crown--which exhibits a nice bit of resistance.

The pushers are a little weird, imho. They are set within protective sleeves that protrude about 2-3/4mm from the case. The actual pushers stick-out only about a 1mm farther beyond the sleeves. Hence, when depressing the buttons one can feel the sleeve as the pushers go into the sleeves. No biggie, but a little weird feeling when activating. I thought some might want to know.

One other thing, the lugs are not rounded on the ends like the similarly styled but slightly smaller "NIGHTHAWK," which I have two of. What this means is that the bracelet's sharp edges on top of the first link do not line up with the sharp edges on the tops at the ends of the lugs. Again, not a big deal but a design detail that was not handled well, especially for a watch in this price range, me thinks. All the best.

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Congrats on your new Eco-drive Citizen.

I have a Radio controlled Eco-D and was a bit concerned about it getting a sync here in S. Florida. Since getting it more than 6 mos ago, it's only missed connecting once. Pretty neat.
You can never have too many watches...
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W O W, Rick! That IS impressive reception range... and, I was concerned, hehehe!!!
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