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Old 04-22-2015, 12:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Poor man's 62MAS -7005 8050

I haven't had anything new to share for months so I thought I'd put up some pictures and thoughts on the 7005 8050 that arrived a couple of days ago.
Firstly, this is a great little watch. It shares a lot of DNA with the 62MAS, with the dial, hands, bezel and insert all being quite similar to its more famous and desirable cousin.
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It actually seems to be less common than the 62MAS, but doesn't share its place in history so can be had for substantially less, with nice examples currently going for around $300ish on eBay, although bargains like this one can be had for less again.
For a 'diver' style watch it is fairly modest in size - reflecting its introduction in the late 60s before Seiko started pumping out bigger models like the 6105 and 6309 divers. Since I found it a little difficult to find consistent dimensions online, here they are: Width: 38mm (39 with crown)
Lug to lug: 44mm
Lug width: 18mm
Height: 10mm
Bezel insert: 30/37mm approx.
I believe it's actually 1mm wider (excluding crown) than the 62MAS.
Here it is next to my 6306 7001:
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Of course, it's not really a diver - more a sports diver with only 70m water resistance. I like to think of it as a dress diver. It looks really sharp on the funky but not original bracelet (quite a good match despite the imperfect fit of the end links to the case). It's small enough to fit comfortably under cuffs and also looks nice on a simple black leather strap. It wears well on my 7.5" wrist, although the bracelet is tight and I need to get myself a bracelet extender. Where it departs most from the 62MAS is in the lugs, which give you some nice angles to catch the light but do reduce its presence on the wrist somewhat.
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I've been pretty lucky finding this December '69 proof/proof example. The dial and hands are pristine with no sign of lume rot or any corrosion. The bezel insert is in good nick - save for the pip and some minor scratches. I really like that coin edge bezel too - and it rotates smoothly. The case is really sharp with no evidence of polishing and the brushing on the upper surface is intact.
I'll finish up with a few more photos. I wasn't looking for this model in particular but I'm quite taken by it. If you stumble across one for the right price then I suggest you jump on it. It doesn't wear like a diver, but it's the perfect size for a vintage dress watch with some character. Thanks for reading.
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wow...now that is a great find....looks amazing
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Very nice and I like it on the bracelet.

As you say, a nice watch that often can be found at bargain prices! Is that bezel insert on yours original? If so, it looks nice! IMO, they tend to be pretty scratched up and have a lume dot fixed by an orangutang ... as in my two ...



I do have a third case & movement so maybe I'll mod one of them and try to keep the proof as original as I can get it.

Anyway - great pictures an a nice find!
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Thanks Bork. As far as I know the insert is original to the watch. It has minor scratches and bumps but strangely they seem to be light enough not to have gone through the layer of paint to the aluminium underneath. I guess it's a pretty sweet insert. The whole watch is pretty lightly worn for its 45 years. - not even any tool marks on the case back. That's a nice pair you have there. They look good on a NATO.


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wow...now that is a great find....looks amazing

Thanks John. I guessed you would be the first to offer your congratulations. I asked around a few watch guys near my office at lunchtime and found a sliding bracelet extender so it's more comfortable now. I'm guessing it's my WRUW far the rest of the week.


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Fantastic piece, congratulations, like new. Here with his brother 7005. These are the Seikos to have

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Here is mine...

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Fantastic piece, congratulations, like new. Here with his brother 7005. These are the Seikos to have


Those are on great condition Itau. I agree, they're a bit different from any other seiko I own and definitely add another dimension to the collection. I bet more people would be speaking them out if only they knew how nice they are in person.


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Those are on great condition Itau. I agree, they're a bit different from any other seiko I own and definitely add another dimension to the collection. I bet more people would be speaking them out if only they knew how nice they are in person.


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Right, a little Panerai-style case, very different, i agree, there is also a white dial variation, super rare and very very nice
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... as well as a blue one. Or is the right one blue? Tricky to tell on the phone!
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... as well as a blue one. Or is the right one blue? Tricky to tell on the phone!

Looks blue to me, and stunning. I think I'd go for a blue dial over a white one if I had the choice.


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I just won one on eBay, too. Blue dial from '73, item 311341650525

There she is:




The watch will need a new glass or at least some polishing.

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anybody have one of these for sale please PM me.
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The 7005 is on my wishlist now - thank you!
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i saw one of these on ebay with a faded white dial recently. it was too good looking but 38mm is such a small size
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i saw one of these on ebay with a faded white dial recently. it was too good looking but 38mm is such a small size

I would normally agree with you. I'm a >42mm wearer normally. But this watch has a presence. It's unnasuming but sits very nice on your wrist. My wrist is 7.5 inch and dispose my love for oversize divers and aviators I can help but admire this one on my wrist.
As one of our friends coined it. "A future classic"
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Is the metal bracelet orignial for this watch?
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Is the metal bracelet orignial for this watch?

The only original bracelet in this thread is the one shown in Itau's post (#6) above.


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was thinking of doing a similar mod, may consider it
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Nice pics, I might start keeping an eye out for one of these
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Beautiful example of a mid sized diver! Thanks for sharing!
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How are the bezels on those 7005-8052? Are they suppose to turn both ways? And no 'clicks also?
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How are the bezels on those 7005-8052? Are they suppose to turn both ways? And no 'clicks also?

Correct. They just slide bi directional.
mine had some resistance that I didn't bother adjusting but I'm sure with a bit of silicone +/- a new bezel o-ring it would have slid as it was supposed to.
I doubt it would ever spin freely if that's your concern.
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I've not had mine apart but I believe that the bezel is held in place with a spring rather than a gasket. Sometime soon I'll take the bezel off to polish the crystal and I'll take a shot of the underside and post it.


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