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Old 01-25-2014, 05:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Looking for some insight on 6105-8110

Pardon my lack of general watch knowledge as I have just recently become an enthusiast.

I inherited the watch from my dad. He bought it in the mid to late 70's when we lived in the Philippines. He used it as his dive watch, as did I the first 5 years I owned it (I’ve had it about 25 years now). It is in decent shape, but I don't know how to judge condition on a tool watch this old. I no longer dive, and find this just sits in a drawer collecting age.

To the best of my knowledge it has never been serviced, and has all original parts.

My question really pertains to the fact that I am interested in selling the watch, and am not sure what, if anything I should do the watch before putting it on the market. For these older watches, is it worth having the watch serviced and cleaned? Or are buyers looking for a watch which "shows" its age?

Thanks in advance for any advice you may have.

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Old 01-25-2014, 05:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great looking watch. Best keep it all original and let the new buyer decide what cosmetic restoration and service he/she wishes to have done. Of course, you would get a higher price if you had a new crystal (NOS crystals can be found on eBay, $ 80 - 125, or aftermarket for $40.00) and a service performed (depends where you go, but figure anywhere from $140.00 and up), but, I don't know if you would get your money back. Your watch looks to be in very good to excellent condition, original finish, minimal dents and scratches, original crown, bezel insert looks great, dial very clean, the hands showing a little "wabi", and the "red" dot on the second hand shows some fading, but still visible. Check to see if your watch keeps good time and if the locking crown still works properly. The crown does not screw into place, but simply is locked into place by a nub on the case the lines up with one of the larger grooves on the crown.
Value... check ebay auctions for completed sales and you should have a good idea of your watch's value. I'd estimate between $750 - 850.00, but the market will determine the price.

Hope this helps... nice watch!
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Thanks for your thoughts Marsimaxam.

The crown locks. Seems pretty subtle as the crown rotates very little before it stops, but I assume that is what it is supposed to do.

Bezel rotates both ways, with clicks, which from what I have read recently is normal. I always thought it was "broken" since it was a dive watch an everything.

Movement hacks, which I have also read recently, some do, some don't.

I have been wearing the watch again to get a sense of its accuracy. I'll have to refresh myself of what the standard time unit is (+- seconds per hour/day). Currently seems to be about -2 seconds per hour, but want to average it over a couple of days. Also is about -28 seconds overnight sitting face down on the dresser.

I am a lot surprised to hear how much the watch could go for in its current condition. Makes me start thinking about keeping it as a family heirloom of sorts and passing it along to my son (he's only 1 yr old!). But, wow, that is a LOOOONG way off it seems.

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Old 01-26-2014, 05:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I wouldn't sell it.

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Old 01-26-2014, 06:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Mystlawer, please don't sell it. Those are great watches and have a rich history. As you find out more about the model you'll feel a lot better about holding on to it. I don't know if your father is still living or not but believe me I'd give anything to have one of my dad's old watches no matter what they were.
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Just to pre-answer the PM's I've been getting... this was not a "for sale" post. I was trying to gain some knowledge about the watch and the appropriate steps to take, or not take, prior to selling.

If I decide to sell the watch I will post in the appropriate forum. Thanks for the interest though.

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Old 01-27-2014, 01:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I agree....... keep the watch!!
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Great looking 6105!
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nice all ori 6105
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With the group keep the watch! They have already gained value from when this thread was started!
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I agree with the group as well. The more you learn about it, you will want to keep it and pass it on to your kids. It might be time for a movement service and keep the rest as original as possible. The scratches and dents in vintage watches is what gives them character and can not be duplicated. Your watch is growing in value everyday.

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Being as the last time mystlawer posted was 3 1/2 years ago I think this thread should be way dead.
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keep the watch.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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nice piece, I had one too
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Old 10-25-2017, 03:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Hopefully you revisited this old thread and decided to keep it. No way would i get rid of that watch.
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I wonder if the £ or $$ signs turned his head?
Shame if so...
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Now I want to know how this story ended... I hope he didn't sell it. Kept it for his son. Not that I am judging if he did...
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would be around usd1350 perhaps now, could be more I guess
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Being as the last time mystlawer posted was 3 1/2 years ago I think this thread should be way dead.
And still .... Sorry Willy. I know how you feel
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Default Many years later, nostalgia has we hunting for this very thread

With the holiday season I dug through my drawer and pulled out my dad's watch for nostalgia, and on top of that dug up this thread and decided to post a couple of photos.


Its on a new strap rather than the ratty velcro job from before when it was my diver from ages past.


My son is 6 now... and though he isn't into watches yet, he has had a couple of digitals that he has enjoyed. He always sees me strapping on a watch in the morning, so time will tell if he catches the bug.


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With the holiday season I dug through my drawer and pulled out my dad's watch for nostalgia, and on top of that dug up this thread and decided to post a couple of photos.


Its on a new strap rather than the ratty velcro job from before when it was my diver from ages past.


My son is 6 now... and though he isn't into watches yet, he has had a couple of digitals that he has enjoyed. He always sees me strapping on a watch in the morning, so time will tell if he catches the bug.


Cheers all.
Yeah! Congratulations, you did the right thing! Keep it (I think you will have serviced her by now) and pass it on to the next generation. Thanks for letting us know, really awesome.
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well u are very blessed to get this from your Dad...it looks amazing...remember always keep good spring bars on it too...nothing worse than one breaking and that watch falling and getting damaged....God Bless,John
and i would never sell that one...especially as it was from your Dad...u can not put a value on that
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Yeah! Congratulations, you did the right thing! Keep it (I think you will have serviced her by now)
I have not had it serviced, but am actively looking. I have contacted three places just in the last couple of days and am awaiting a reply from them:

1. Klein Vintage Watch Repair - kleinvintagewatchrepair.com
- Sounds like a very long back log and turn around times currently
2. International Watch Works - internationalwatchworks.com
3. Seregin's Fine Timepieces - seregins.com

Any others I should consider in the CONUS?

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Since you are not in a hurry to get the service performed (it might take close to a year wait with KVW) go with Klein Vintage and don't look anywhere else. Spencer is the #1 top vintage Seiko repair guy here in the USA and you say you don't want to ship overseas.


Go with Klein Vintage Repair, don't shop around and don't look elsewhere. and whatever you do, DO NOT SEND TO SEIKO USA FOR REPAIR. That's my 2 cents worth.



And VERY glad to see you are not selling the watch, I have my Dad's old watch, his Mom's watch, my grandfather's modern (1980's) Seiko and my Father-In-Laws cheap Timex. None are ever to be sold. This from a guy who buys and sells watches all year long.
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i'm glad this thread is not dead.

i don't understand why an old thread would bother anyone, since we're
talking about old watches, a thread about an old watch can't be old until
the watches are dead, and these threads are about keeping the watches
alive, so to speak....

from 2014 to 2019, well, the watch hasn't changed significantly, nor have
our thoughts about these watches. the price has doubled, only that has
changed.
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