Author Topic: Seriously. Why can't expensive Swiss brands lume their watches the way Seiko... (Read 1722 times)

chrisk · « **on:** February 12, 2012, 03:34:45 PM »

...and Citizen do? It's always bothered me. There is just no comparison to the lume Seiko and Citizen use. Omega came close on the last generation of Seamasters.

Do Swiss brands just not try? Don't get it.

Chris

hks3sgte · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2012, 04:37:12 PM »

Omega lume is great. Rolex on the other hand.... eeehhh

watchfreek · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2012, 05:09:20 PM »

I agree this is so infuriating ,I have a Breitling Super Avenger 1 year old ,and my £150 Seiko Orange monsters lume is 10 times better than The SA ,joke.If you like lume on a watch as I do ,

jimmy1963 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2012, 05:44:59 PM »

The lume on my omega seamaster is good ,until i put it next to the sawtooth i payed £125 for

W4watch · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2012, 06:11:42 PM »

I totally agree, most Swiss brand glow about as bright as a used match.

My Frankenmonster glows like the sun!

It's Pretty bad that they can't get their act together.

Pei Der Han · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2012, 07:21:15 PM »

Quote from: W4watch on February 12, 2012, 06:11:42 PM

I totally agree, most Swiss brand glow about as bright as a used match.

My Frankenmonster glows like the sun!

It's Pretty bad that they can't get their act together.

The Swiss may have their hands tied by Nemoto/Seiko patents.

Otherwise, the Swiss may not put as much street credit in torch like lume...hasn't stopped them from continuously raising their prices; and getting them

W4watch · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2012, 07:22:46 PM »

Quote from: iButrusCor on February 12, 2012, 07:21:15 PM

The Swiss may have their hands tied by Nemoto/Seiko patents.

Otherwise, the Swiss may not put as much street credit in torch like lume...hasn't stopped them from continuously raising their prices; and getting them

Very True.

@@&£&&@@&" !!!

Time · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2012, 07:28:42 PM »

I agree, with one exception.
My Victorinox Swiss Army Dive master 500 lume's is as good as anything I have seen from Seiko.
Unfortunately, all my other swiss watches, including Omega just don't measure up when it comes to lume.

this one lights up like a torch, as do the numbers on the bezel up to 20

TheFastest · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:26:19 PM »

"Seriously"... many Swiss do. I've a number of them that are as 'blinding' as any of my many Seikos and Citizens.

Time · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2012, 09:02:12 PM »

Quote from: TheFastest on February 12, 2012, 08:26:19 PM

"Seriously"... many Swiss do. I've a number of them that are as 'blinding' as any of my many Seikos and Citizens.

like which ones?

Berend6105 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 13, 2012, 09:51:54 PM »

Quote from: Time on February 12, 2012, 07:28:42 PM

I agree, with one exception.
My Victorinox Swiss Army Dive master 500 lume's is as good as anything I have seen from Seiko.
Unfortunately, all my other swiss watches, including Omega just don't measure up when it comes to lume.

this one lights up like a torch, as do the numbers on the bezel up to 20

Pics or it didn't happen

Time · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2012, 10:07:37 PM »

Quote from: Berend6105 on February 13, 2012, 09:51:54 PM

Pics or it didn't happen

ok, I'll take some lume pics.

hans caravan · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2012, 01:12:33 AM »

Both of my Hamiltons have terrible lume. Makes you wonder why they even put any on the watch.

TheFastest · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2012, 01:49:03 AM »

Time: My Grahams and Gevril to name a couple. I'm not going to bother with the tripod for a pic. Believe it or not, it's up to you.

Time · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2012, 10:08:23 PM »

ok, as promised, here are the lume shots.
each watch received the exact amount of light at the SAME time.
OM vs swiss army dive master 500 (the only swiss watch out of many that I consider worthy of this battle)

the shot was taken 3 minutes later.

ramairthree · « **Reply #15 on:** February 22, 2012, 11:08:34 PM »

I agree. I have a Fortis Marinemaster that just needs more lume. They say so it does not glow too bright in the cockpit I heard.

I have a 90s Sub that had great dial but not hands lume.

Time · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2012, 11:21:41 PM »

Quote from: ramairthree on February 22, 2012, 11:08:34 PM

I agree. I have a Fortis Marinemaster that just needs more lume. They say so it does not glow too bright in the cockpit I heard.

I have a 90s Sub that had great dial but not hands lume.

ok... how does this add anything here?

ramairthree · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2012, 11:28:53 PM »

Quote from: Time on February 22, 2012, 11:21:41 PM

ok... how does this add anything here?

Because I thought the theme was more expensive Swiss watches have lume that is not as good as Seikos that cost far less.

And the two Swiss watches that I have, one a make I did not see already discussed, are examples of this trend.

tirod · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2012, 04:26:38 AM »

Maybe the issue is that so few of "those" watches are actually "Dive" rated. If they aren't going to actually pressure test, then getting them to be visible at 12" from your face isn't really important. So, they don't waste the money.

It's another one of those disconnects - some makers go to a lot of work to make a Dive rated watch that conforms to all the standards, and some make look alikes that aren't tested. Until the consumer starts withholding money and forces the issue, nothing will happen.

There will be those who make a Dive watch to standard, and those who simply claim they do. It's becoming obvious which is really superlative.

slivver71 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2012, 05:02:58 AM »

i agree. the only swiss watches i've owned w/ decent lume were a baume & mercier capeland s xxl and some of the doxas i've had.

buddy13 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2012, 09:59:56 AM »

Some swiss offerings have great lume. You should look at a GP Seahawk Pro, Blancpain fifty fathoms and some others for the ultimate lume...

Omega and Rolex (new models with Chromalight) have very long lasting lume though not so bright initially. It definitely is longer lating than Seiko IMHO...

brett kenny · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2012, 11:19:56 AM »

some are better than others. my certina does pretty well i think.

Martog · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:24:47 PM »

Hi Brett

I dont know about that my Omega Polprof and Tag Heuer Aquagrapgh have tremendous lume and last the entire night and I'm talking 8 hours.

Cheers
Mark.

Kraftwerck · « **Reply #23 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:21:33 PM »

This Omega Speedmaster Professional Chronometer 300m has a nice lume.....Neilo has two colours of this model.

And all of my Rolexes have a VERY long lasting lumes. They shine for hours and hours, many more than any of my brightest Seikos.

Time · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2012, 04:40:47 PM »

Quote from: brett kenny on February 24, 2012, 11:19:56 AM

some are better than others. my certina does pretty well i think.

I just LOVE that Certina!