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THE SCWF IS NOW ON GOOGLE+
« on: January 24, 2012, 04:02:38 AM »
Hi SCWF:

As you can all see, the forum is now graced with little +1 buttons on every post.  The reason for that is that we have just launched our very own SCWF Google+ page!!!

The page is still very much a work in progress, but while we find it's footing, please visit and add the SCWF to your Google+ circles.

We hope to use the Google+ page as an extension of the forum where we can all comment on interesting posts we see on the forum, as well as highlight great current and older posts from our archives.  If you see a post you really like and have a Google account, just click the +1 button and leave a comment.  Your comment and a link to the post will appear on the SCWF Google+ page.

In addition we'd love to use Google+'s hangout features to do regular video chats with forum members and hopefully circle content from other sites.  We are hoping that the SCWF Google+ site will work as a way to bring our members together in a way that the forum doesn't, as well as provide a new outlet for some of the great content the SCWF has archived over the past ten years. 

Please visit our new Google+ page and circle us:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/108889795260291637861/posts

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Re: THE SCWF IS NOW ON GOOGLE+
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 02:28:20 PM »
BTW, If any of you have any questions on how Google+ works and how we are trying to use it in connection with SCWF, please do not hesitate to ask.

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 09:54:19 PM »
Well, since you've asked, I'd welcome more info. on what it is and how it can benefit the Forum.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 10:58:22 PM »
Well, since you've asked, I'd welcome more info. on what it is and how it can benefit the Forum.
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John

Same here as I have absolutely no idea what this google + thing is you're talking about.  If it involves g-mail or facebook, I sadly won't be much help in adding anything to any "circles".

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Re: THE SCWF IS NOW ON GOOGLE+
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 01:01:43 AM »
google+  =  just another "social media" site geared toward tracking everything its users do so that the data can be sold to potential advertisers.  :-[ asleep

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Re: THE SCWF IS NOW ON GOOGLE+
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 01:33:59 AM »
I've joined, though I'd resisted Google+ as I didn't see the upside of joining.  Thanks for pushing me over the edge
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Re: THE SCWF IS NOW ON GOOGLE+
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 02:48:39 PM »
google+  =  just another "social media" site geared toward tracking everything its users do so that the data can be sold to potential advertisers.  :-[ asleep


With all due respect, this answer is extremely short sighted and goes directly against the ad-free approach we follow here on SCWF.

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 03:26:56 PM »
Alright gents, since some folks appear to be unaware of why we are doing tis and what Google+ really is, allow me to explain.


Yes Google+ is a Social network, not entirely unlike Facebook.  However there are some MAJOR differences between the two.  While facebook is purely and only a social network, Google+ acts like a hub for all interconnected Google products (and to a degree, Android products as well).  This is an important distinction because most of us use various different Google products, such as YouTube, Google Search, Google Docs and Picasa, to name a few.  So how does that benefit you and SCWF?


In several ways:


1. Google Search Plus Your World:  This is a new feature which Google has instituted, where they have added samples of Google+ results as possible replies to google searches.  These answers usually come out on the side of your searches if you are logged in.  By Opening a G+ page, SCWF is able to feed it's content directly into those G+ results, allowing the forum to come up near or at the top of search results.  This has the benefit of not only helping members here as well as othr G+ users, but also of directing new members to SCWF, thus allowing the forum to grow and bringing new people into our hobby.


2.  a G+ page is a perfect place to allow us to recycle interesting old threads and archival materials.  What we do is bring it up as a comment on G+ and add a link to it.  G+ in turn, will add a brief summary of the thread and link it's location here on SCWF, where members can learn about things they might not have been aware of or be exposed to great material that they didn't know about.


3.  A G+ page allows us to take advantage of interconnected services.  For example, if you use an Android device (and to some degree if you use an IOS device), you are able to use a dedicated G+ application to keep track of a dedicated feed on G+. That's good as it prevents you from having to log into the forum to look.  You are able to take pictures with your camera and have them automatically sync in your Google+ account or Picassa.  Right from within those services, you are able to edit those pictures and share them, say for example, here as deep links.  If a group of us are working on a research project where we have multiple editors and people providing information, we can all work together directly on Google Docs and share that info live with each other and the forum right through Google Docs.  There are lots of other scenarios of course, but another one that I like is that G+, unlike Facebook, is very subject specific, so you tend to find that much of the folks that hang out there have more clearly defined interests and are there to pursue them, as opposed to catch up with pre-school friends they haven't seen in 50years.


4.  Hangouts.  For me, one of the best features of G+, which I hope we can take advantage of is the Hangouts feature.  Hangouts is G+'s built in chat feature.  yes I know we had a chat feature here and go rid of it for lack of use.  How does this differ you ask?  Well it differs in that not only can you use Hangouts to type with people, but you can use it to videoconference.  Unlike most video chat services that are only one on one, G+ allows up to 10 people to talk to each other live at the same time (everybody sees everybody).  To make it even cooler, this feature works on every kind of device (computers, laptops, tablets and smartphones), regardless of brand, so for example  our resident watchmaker can schedule a hangout during his lunch hour to answer questions pertaining to a particular tricky repair.  Lets say its a pretty day so he walks out to the park and takes his smartphone with him.  through his G+ app,  he logs into G+ hangouts and is joined by 9 others in video conference from all around the world.  he is now able to talk to all of you and handle his class.


5  Lastly there is theissue of advertising.  If folks are complaining about adds, then they've obviously not used G+.  Unlike Facebook, G+ is largely Add free (just like SCWF).  I'm not saying that it will remain that way, but if adds come, they will be like they are in all Google products:  tiny, on the periphery and non invasive.  As for the fear of Google using your info to target you, well yes, they will, but they already do that.  What the are not doing is selling your info to third parties.  instead they are using it to target advertising within their own products and making more accurate suggestions in searches.  That's a big difference from other sites (don't take my word on it, go read the newest version of their privacy policy).


In conclusion, this is a feature that we hope will be good for the forum.  We hope this allows the forum to expand; we hope that this allows our members to have better tools available to them to enjoy their forum.  We hope that this allows our members to better interact with each other.  Lastly we hope this exposes SCWF to new readers who might be interested in Watch collecting and care to come visit our little corner of the web.  That said, the feature is not forced on anyone.  you can choose to use it or not.  We hope that you do and are able to take advantage of all it has to offer, but if you choose not to, the good old SCWF will continue to remain usable in the same manner it always has.


I hope that answers any questions you might have had.  Let me know if you have any more.

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 03:40:19 PM »
Thank you for the explanation of Google+ features and functions.
John

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Re: THE SCWF IS NOW ON GOOGLE+
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 05:04:48 PM »
My social network does not really involve the internet, but thanks just the same.

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Re: THE SCWF IS NOW ON GOOGLE+
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 06:48:35 PM »
My social network does not really involve the internet, but thanks just the same.


Again, the social side of things is only a small part of it.  Taking advantage of all the interconnected features in the context of SCWF, Google and Android is more the point.

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 07:01:44 PM »
Let me give you all an example of how this can be of use.  The example is not watch related, but it does involve the SCWF.  Today I wrote a review of my new Tablet (ASUS TRANSFORMER PRIME REVIEW).  I took some of the pictures with my Android phone, some with the Android tablet and some with a digital camera.  The tablet and the phone automatically uploaded all the pics to Picasa and put them in the same folder.  I had to manually upload the pics from the camera to Picasa.  Picasa in turn made the pics available in my Google+ gallery, which in turn automatically shared them with the SCWF page.  To take advantage of my Photoboucket account, I shared the pics from Picasa to photobucket and deeplinked from there to insert them in the review.  I posted the review in the OT section.  once it was up, I +1'd the review and posted a link to it on both my page ad the  SCWF G+ page.  Now when someone goes to either page, they will find my post, along with a brief summary of the review and a link redirecting them to the actual review here on the forum.  At the same time all the members following the SCWF G+ page, just got a little notice in their stream letting them now of the article and they got the notice on their browsers and mobile devices depending of which they are using.  If they want to read the article, they can access it immediately, or they will simply wait to read it at leisure.  Either way, they are now aware that it exists (when they might not have been if they never visit the forum's OT section - which many here don't do).  the icing on the cake, is that not only are SCWFers aware of it, but the folks on my circles outside of SCWF are, as are the folks in our members circles outside of SCWF.  these folks, if interest will hopefully visit our forum and hopefully find something they like and become members and future collectors.  Lastly, now when someone runs a google search fo the items on the review, the review will pop up as one of the first things they see if they are SCWF members.


None of that would be possible if we only used the forum and google search in a traditional manner.  This is but one example and it is not watch related, but I think we can all see how easily this can be applied to interesting posts, reviews and archived material all over the forum, both current and going back all the way to 2000.


I hope that illustrates the benefits of this to everyone and how it is much more than a simple social network.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 12:38:18 AM »
Sounds pretty cool.  Can I do this anonymously, or must I sign up and log in?

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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 02:17:19 AM »
You must sign in through yoru G-mail account.  I beleiev Google has started allowing Pseudonyms attached to real Google Accounts on Google+

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 02:21:59 AM »
Sounds pretty cool.  Can I do this anonymously, or must I sign up and log in?

andy b.
Andy,  from what I can see, it is automatically hooked to your Gmail account (which is how many of us came to the Google world).  I have several Gmail accounts and I am trying to figure out how to associate the +1 with a specific one.
Why several accounts?  Incredibly convenient when separating personal from business from hobby from teaching, etc. etc. and I can access my email without dependence upon machine-specific software like Outlook or Thunderbird.
If you don't use Google in that way yet, go to their help pages and learn more. It appears you can use a little or a lot of their offerings. I just happen to use a lot because of the convenience.   :great:

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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2012, 02:23:14 AM »
You must sign in through yoru G-mail account.  I beleiev Google has started allowing Pseudonyms attached to real Google Accounts on Google+
Yes, I also saw the announcement about "nicknames" being allowed to make it a bit more informal.

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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2012, 04:03:12 PM »
Andy,  from what I can see, it is automatically hooked to your Gmail account (which is how many of us came to the Google world).  I have several Gmail accounts and I am trying to figure out how to associate the +1 with a specific one.

Why several accounts?  Incredibly convenient when separating personal from business from hobby from teaching, etc. etc. and I can access my email without dependence upon machine-specific software like Outlook or Thunderbird.

If you don't use Google in that way yet, go to their help pages and learn more. It appears you can use a little or a lot of their offerings. I just happen to use a lot because of the convenience.   :great:

John (and anyone else interested).  while Google allows you to switch from one account to another, the process is a little clumsy.  If you use Chrome for your web browsing consider adding the following extension:

Quick Login for Google Accounts

It adds a little icon on the top right hand corner that allows you to toggle between accounts with a single click.  once you switch accounts, all the google services associated with that account also switch with it.  If you are on Android, you don't have to do this.  You can have Android recognize all your Google accounts simultaneously and feed you e-mail from all of them.  you will, however, have to designate one as the default account for the device.


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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2012, 05:45:02 PM »
John (and anyone else interested).  while Google allows you to switch from one account to another, the process is a little clumsy.  If you use Chrome for your web browsing consider adding the following extension:

Quick Login for Google Accounts

It adds a little icon on the top right hand corner that allows you to toggle between accounts with a single click.  once you switch accounts, all the google services associated with that account also switch with it.  If you are on Android, you don't have to do this.  You can have Android recognize all your Google accounts simultaneously and feed you e-mail from all of them.  you will, however, have to designate one as the default account for the device.

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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2012, 06:37:36 PM »
BTW, if anyone wants to see the full feed from the SCWF G+ page, as opposed to just the posts made by SCWF, you can view it by clicking the home button on the G+ page, or goinghere:


https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/108889795260291637861/ 

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 02:34:28 AM »
I am now googlefied.  :)   I just picked up a Moto Droid Bionic, and part of the process was setting up a g-mail account.  Now to figure out how to work the stupid thing.  The saddest part of the entire story being that I used to work for the company that made the iPhone hardware, and I have avoided smart phones like the plague until tonight.

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2012, 02:44:27 AM »
Congratulations for the Droid phone!  and good luck with your learning curve (I'm still crawling along!)


I am now googlefied.  :)   I just picked up a Moto Droid Bionic, and part of the process was setting up a g-mail account.  Now to figure out how to work the stupid thing.  The saddest part of the entire story being that I used to work for the company that made the iPhone hardware, and I have avoided smart phones like the plague until tonight.

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2012, 06:50:19 PM »
I am now googlefied.  :)   I just picked up a Moto Droid Bionic, and part of the process was setting up a g-mail account.  Now to figure out how to work the stupid thing.  The saddest part of the entire story being that I used to work for the company that made the iPhone hardware, and I have avoided smart phones like the plague until tonight.

andy b.


Congrats on the Droid.  If you have any questions about the Android experience, please do not hesitate to contact me.  I'll be happy to walk you thorough what I know.  As an FYI, Google products are deeply integrated into Android and you really get a lot more out of the device if you use them.

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2012, 07:44:02 PM »
Isthmus,

It may be posted somewhere (and if it was posted prior to my new smart phone experience, I probably just ignored it), but how to I go about viewing the SCWF on my fancy pants new phone?  I see references on various other websites about something called "Tap Talk" I think.  I'm guessing I could just open a browser window to look at the forum, but I'm guessing there is some other more efficient way to view it?  I have no idea, this is all new to me.  Feel free to direct me to a place that explains some of this if we are getting too far afield of the SCWF mission.  :86:

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2012, 09:56:19 PM »
The browser on your phone will access SCWF just like a computer browser.  Talpatalk is an app for viewing and tracking feeds from places such as SCWF.  We have a Talpatalk client, so if you want to use it you can download it from the Android market here:


https://market.android.com/details?id=com.quoord.tapatalkpro.activity&hl=en


It costs about $3

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2012, 06:27:43 PM »

Congrats on the Droid.  If you have any questions about the Android experience, please do not hesitate to contact me.  I'll be happy to walk you thorough what I know.  As an FYI, Google products are deeply integrated into Android and you really get a lot more out of the device if you use them.

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    i've been searching for a definitive answer, but have found none; so, here goes.  how do i sync contacts, notes, calendar dates etc on OUTLOOK?  my phone has 2.3.5 gingerbread if that matters at all.
 
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