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My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« on: December 02, 2010, 10:54:09 PM »
[size=2.65em]My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
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Movement:


The ALBA Manta Ray uses the entry-level Seiko 7S26 automatic  movement.  If you’re reading this post, then chances are pretty good that you are already familiar with this movement.  I’ll give a quick synopsis just in case. 


This movement features 21 jewels, and beats at 6 b.p.s., which equates to 21,600 b.p.h. 


The movement does not feature hacking or hand-winding; some  might see it as being a no-frills movement for this reason, however I think it just highlights the simplicity and durability of the 7S26. 


The movement features a bi-directional rotor, which is capable of producing in the neighborhood of 40 hours of power reserve. 


The movement displays both day and date.


Essentially, the 7S26 is a rather simple movement, but that’s  not necessarily a bad thing.  If anything, the simplicity contributes to its reputation as being extremely  robust. 


My particular example keeps good time; good enough to the  point that I’ve never actually timed it, however I’m not too particular about  accuracy with automatics.  If I’m looking for precision timekeeping first and foremost, then no automatic will fit the bill anyway.


Crown is at the 3:00 position.  One thing worth noting that I enjoy very much about this watch is that the exposed/outer part of the crown has a bead-blasted type finish on it.  This is the only place on the watch where this finish can be found, I'm really fond of it.  It gives the crown an enjoyable feeling of depth, as the blasted finish is surrounded by a polished ring, which then transitions into the knurled portion that is to be gripped.  This is a very cool aspect in my opinion.


 
Bezel:    


The bezel is solid SS and has engraved and painted in numbers, which for me is a definite highlight.  It’s a feature that I came to love on the Monster, as it just gives the watch a more solid feeling in my opinion.


One thing I really like about the bezel, which has been labeled as a weakness by some, is the red painted numbers that go all the way from the  one minute marker to the 20 minute marker.  In essence, it feels like you’re getting a “pepsi”-styled bezel, but without too much of the red color to distort the look of the watch. 


Like all of the contemporary Seiko ISO-rated divers, this  watch has a unidirectional, 120-click bezel.  The action on mine is very nice; I’d say it compares favorably to the Monster, if not just a little less smooth.


There is a rather ordinary and small lume pip at 12 o’clock.  It’s a little smaller than I might like, but it gets the job done.


The bezel has a knurled texture for easy grip, although I should note that the design of the case shrouds the bezel at the lugs, so grasping and rotating the bezel is easiest with your thumb and index fingers at the 12 and 6 positions.


One thing worth noting is a very striking interplay between brushed and polished surfaces on the bezel.  For me, this is an outstanding trait that really makes the watch  pop.  Both the innermost and outermost portions of the bezel are polished, while the central part is brushed.  In my estimation, this is one of the nicer touches of this watch.  The following picture, while a bit crude, hopefully gives you a better idea of this detail.  Notice how in this picture it almost appears as though there are two black rings on the bezel where the polished portions are:



Additionally, the polished dimples on the bezel bear a  striking resemblance to the hour markers, and they conjoin the outer and inner polished portions of the bezel.  This is just another small touch that leads me to believe that a good deal of thought went into the design of this watch.


Dial:


The dial, is of course, the main selling point of this  watch.  After all, this is where it got  its namesake from.  I won’t go into too  much detail about the dial, as others have discussed it at such a great length  that there’s not too much to add.


The dial features the notorious Manta Ray pattern, which depicts a school of Manta Rays swimming in a northwestern direction (heading toward 11 o’clock, in watch-speak).


Also worth noting is the fade on the dial, which begins as a white-ish blue at the center and gradually transforms to almost a blue-ish purple where the dial meets the chapter ring.


The indices are chrome-lined, and as mentioned before are shaped similarly to that of the polished dimples on the bezel.  They sort of resemble shark teeth, which is sort of fitting given that this is a dive watch.


Even though the indices are lumed using Seiko’s proprietary Lumibrite, they have a distinctively white-ish appearance that makes them stand out a bit more.  There is definitely not the same degree of greenish hue on the indices here as there is on the Monster.


Case:


The case is pretty much typical Seiko in terms of the interplay between the polished and brushed surfaces. 


The sides of the case are completely polished, while the tops of the lugs are brushed, and the crown guards are polished on the outside and brushed on the tops and the outermost surfaces.


Also worth noting is that the lugs are drilled, which makes strap changes an absolute breeze.  I wish all watches had ‘em.
 

Case Back
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The case back has an embossed Alba wave logo that is similar  to the Seiko wave logo.  It is just stylized to be a bit sportier, or a bit more “loud.”  I’m not a guy that worries too much about the case back, but I will say that the logo is pretty cool.


Strap:


As other have stated, the rubber strap is very similar to  that of the Seiko Z20 (the version seen on the BFK, Caesar, Sawtooth,  etc.).  It’s nice enough for me to wear, but I wouldn’t call it exemplary or anything.  Mine is a bit more stiff than the comparable Z20’s I’ve held. 


One thing about the strap that I like is that the keepers have a wave-type shape to them, which mimics the wave-shaped vents on the strap.


The buckle is unsigned, as it only has the “STAINLESS STEEL” engraving on the underside.


All in all the strap is okay, but nothing worth writing home about.


Hands:



Ah yes, the hands.  This is perhaps the single biggest gripe that watch aficionados have about the watch, and yet I find them endearing, even if they are a bit odd. 


I guess I look at the Manta Ray as being more of a fun and laid-back type diver (even if is an ISO-rated watch ala the Monster), and in that vein, I just see the hands as contributing to the fun factor.


The hands come to a point at the ends that is similar to the hour markers, which is sort of nice.   


The hour hand is small enough to be easily distinguishable from the minute hand.  The second hand is similar/identical to that of the Monster.   


One the Blue Manta Ray the second hand is painted red, which matches the red letters (1-20) on the bezel, the red “DIVER’S 200M” text on the  dial, and the red hash marks on the chapter ring at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o’clock.  This is just another small little detail that I happen to enjoy.


Lume:



Seiko of course uses its proprietary lume on this watch, which is called Lumibrite.


This watch has lume applied on portions of all three hands (hour, minute, and second), as well as on the 11 hour markers.  There is no indice at the 3 o’clock position, as that space is occupied by the day/date wheel.


The hands and indices all have a pretty generous amount of  luminous material applied, as the lume glows a bright neon green color for hours on end.  This is especially true if the dial is exposed to direct sunlight or an LED flashlight.


Once again, using the Monster as the benchmark, the Manta Ray’s lume isn’t quite as bright.  The  Monster simple has more real estate devoted to the lume, which in turn gives it a brighter appearance.  I’d say that the Manta Ray’s lume is probably pretty similar to that of the SKX007, and that’s nothing to sneeze at.
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Offline water70proof

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 12:16:05 AM »
Great review!  The Alba divers are amazing bargains, sort of "the other monsters."   I, too, have always liked those dial indices and hands.  All you need now is a watchadoo....

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2010, 01:45:24 AM »
Great review.  I think we appreciate a lot of the same things in dive watches.
 
The Manta Ray is a really cool watch!

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2010, 02:27:50 AM »
Great review  :great:
Had the black limited edition at one point but the case just did not gel with me. But i did love the manta ray dial.

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2010, 03:56:06 AM »
Thanks for an informative and interesting review!   :clap:

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2010, 08:39:56 AM »
I dont know what it is about that watch but I love mine. Its one of my favorite watches.

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 04:09:47 PM »
Fantastic review.  You have to love the Manta Ray's.  IMHO they are not only one of the best bargains in dive watches, but also one of the most ignored great divers.  I blame the alba brand and the odd choice of hands.  If these things where branded seiko and had more traditional diver hands, I strongly believe that they would have a FAR bigger following.  That's ok, though, as it is it means that prices stay low andthose of us who like them get to find them .  here are my three manta ray's:



Now If I could only get my hands on the all black manta ray...

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 04:19:34 PM »
solid review!  :great:
my blue manta says hi too!


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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 04:59:10 PM »
Nice review.  Black Manta checking in.
 

 
BTW, aren't the mantas heading northwest, not northeast?

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2010, 05:32:32 PM »


 
BTW, aren't the mantas heading northwest, not northeast?

Haha, fixed!   ;)

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2010, 05:36:56 PM »
Thanks for all of the kind words, fellas.

I really do believe that these are vastly underrated divers.  I'd say that the build quality is easily on par with the Monster, if not a bit superior. 

In addition to that it's nice to own a watch that is rare even amongst fellow Japanese watch enthusiasts.

Don't look now, but there's a BNIB black-dialed variant on bracelet for only $130 on the SCTP.  That's a steal IMHO.

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2010, 08:40:20 PM »
Great review, congrats on that beauty.
Can we see more dial pics straight on? Its a beauty.  ;D

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 02:44:20 AM »
Speaking of the Manta, does anyone know whether Wayne still has them for $168 plus shipping?  (and that's with bracelet).  I see someone has posted one on the SCTP for almost $300 which is a lot more than I remember them costing.  Have prices gone up, or is this guy just over the top?  Has anyone bought one from Wayne recently?

Thanks.

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2010, 08:13:39 AM »
Hey! Ya finally got around to posting this!  It was worth the wait.  :clap:

Here's my big blue baby on a bracelet.  It's a little different as you may notice that it doesn't have any red markers in its bezel holes.  Don't know how that happened, a mix up I suppose in the assembly process?


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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2010, 02:16:36 PM »
Great review G!

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2010, 11:21:13 PM »
Great review.

In addition to the blue Manta I also have the Limited Edition Ji-Dai model. I believe that this was a special release for the Thai market to celebrate the watch being the first Alba mechanical 200m diver.

 

This watch came with a limited edition box and unusual color scheme.

   

The yellow dial has a wavy texture and is offset with blue minute and hour hands with a red seconds hand. The watch has a sapphire crystal and they are individually numbered from a release of 999 units.

 

While the color scheme will not appeal to many people it makes a nice change and is not as gaudy as the pictures suggest.

 

I picked this model up in Bangkok a couple of months ago on sale for around $120 and it had obviously been sitting in the back of the cabinet since the release in 2005. This is not a version that I have seen very commonly and it is clearly an acquired taste but it makes a nice companion for my Manta.


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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2010, 05:17:04 PM »
I think the JaiDai came out in the wake of the Yellow Monster and the Thai Seiko office (the guys behind most of the limited edition inexpensive seiko divers) sought to duplicate their success by doing the same with Alba.  I think they miscalculated the popularity of the brand and what people where actually looking for in the watch's styling that attracted them to the monster in the first place.  The idea was right, but the pricing was wrong and the styling came out a bit cartoony, while the YM's came out looking purposeful.  They did a FAR better job with the All black LE Manta Ray.

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2010, 09:41:44 PM »
It seems a little odd to me that Seiko Thailand would bring out a watch with a Japanese name and the Japanese characters stamped on the caseback, I'd have expected Thai or Mandarin  . I'm not saying they didn't ,but it's kinda strange -I'd be fascinated to hear the history behind the watch.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2010, 01:30:08 AM »
I am not sure of the exact history of the Ji-Dai but everything I have ever seen on this model has always been Thai related. If you type Ji-Dai into google translate it autodetects it as Thai but does not provide a translation. Possibly a Thai speaking member can let us know what it translates to in English.

I do think that the black Manta is a much nicer LE version and I continue to keep an eye out for that one.
Anthony

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2010, 07:39:30 PM »
The strange thing is the yellow seems to sell for quite a bit more, despite that fact that there are more than twice as many of them, oh, and the fact that it is not very attractive in my opinion. ;)

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2010, 07:59:07 PM »
I agree that the yellow one is a bit too "funky."   :))

The all-black LE variant looks awesome though.

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2010, 01:29:37 AM »
Another nice reviews about Monta Ray and I do appreciate my MR more after reading your review. :bravo_2: 
 

 
 

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Re: My Review of ALBA Blue “Manta Ray” AL4005X
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2010, 08:25:02 PM »
  Hi Anthony, Ji Dai isn't Thai - it's Japanese, the two characters on the caseback" 時代"   say Ji Dai in Japanese. If you translate that,  maybe it makes more   sense  "a time; a period; an era".  It's virtually impossible to   translate Anglicized Thai with any success, as there is no universal   convention for changing from the Thai alphabet to English, or vice   versa (although the Royal Thai system is very good).
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2010, 11:48:10 PM »
hmm.
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2011, 03:54:36 PM »
Hmm? ... try translating "mai mai mai mai mai"  - same words in Anglocised Thai -  but in  original Thai means "new wood doesn't burn, does it?"  or    ไม้ใหม่ ไม่  ไหม้ ไหม .

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