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Old 01-11-2017, 08:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How do you feel about swimming/diving with a vintage diver ?

Forget about the rarity or value of the watch for now

How would you feel about swimming with such has a 6309-704X etc (40 year old now) that has had all the gaskets replaced and passed a water proof test to at least the rating stated on the dial ?

At one time even after replacing all the gaskets and testing a watch I would take it off to wash the pots which since I retired I often have to do but now I would not worry in the slightest swimming with a 40 year old that had been at least gasket serviced.

How about you ?

ps: I feel much safer with a screw down crown and a screw down crystal retainer
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, I have had many of my vintage divers serviced and pressure tested by Duncan. The watches come back to me properly sealed in perfect condition. Call me crazy, but I wont even wear them to wash my hands or go out in the rain. While I own them they'll never get wet again. That's just me!
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I'd do it. Gotta wear them like they were meant to be worn right or is that bad thinking lol

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Nah. I don't swim with a (modern) watch, so why would I put on one of my vintage divers just out of spite?
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:19 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have absolutely no problem either swimming or indeed diving with a vintage watch as long as it's been recently serviced and pressure tested. I wear all my watches in the water regardless of age but that's why I also spend a fortune making sure they're fit for purpose.

I have to say, I wouldn't be overly keen on diving with a watch that didn't have a screw down crown but the only one I've owned as I recall was a 6105.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have had my Seiko 6309-7049 and most of my other vintage divers gaskets changed and pressure tested.
I still take them off near water.
Not worth the risk Imo.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I wear my 6309 TST in the ocean all the time and have worn various 7548s as well without issue. I love the fact that I can swim with a 'vintage' diver and not worry about it (and it looks very cool on a Zulu )
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I'm sure you already know I'm not doing it since this subject was obviously prompted by my earlier post. I had a brand new H556 leak and fog up after about a year or so of use, I'm hardly going to trust 40 years old diver even if it has passed a pressure test.

A pal of mine had a vintage Chronosport Sea Quartz fail shortly after service and reseal a few years ago. Unfortunately he chucked it after it leaked, figured it wasn't worth repairing.
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I just feel slightly better about not having to wrap it in my sleeve if it's raining!

I guess it would take one disaster and that would therefore put me off. I don't doubt a gasket change and pressure test would be assurance enough however I would always be a little weary. Probably silly to be.
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No, I just don't take the risk. I put on a g-shock for water sports
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I'm with APam002 on this one and have no qualms about swimming with them or for other use around water

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No, I just don't take the risk. I put on a g-shock for water sports


Yep, this. I'll sacrifice a watch like this over a vintage watch.


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Well, I have no fear when I drive my 36 years old Coupe 190 km/h, because I know that all parts that were not "like new" are changed.

Why would I worry about WR tested watch in the water?
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I have a couple of Citizen Eco-Drive 300m watches that I use when I am in the Water...The rest stay on solid ground. Although if the watch is up to factory specs ...
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Well, I have no fear when I drive my 36 years old Coupe 190 km/h, because I know that all parts that were not "like new" are changed.

Why would I worry about WR tested watch in the water?
This is how I feel. My daily driver is a Jeep JK and it's fully overland and off-road prepped. Why? Because I overland with it, take it off-road and have a lot of fun with my son doing that. If I wasn't going to take it off-road I wouldn't buy a Jeep because I wouldn't need one.

Same with watches for me. I love divers because whilst I don't dive a lot I do sometimes and I do a lot of other stuff that will get both me and my watches immersed in water and wet. If I then didn't use my watch for it's intended purpose I wouldn't enjoy it half as much as a I do.

Then again, I'm not a collector and that's maybe where some of our brains think differently. Everything I buy lives life with me, not in a drawer. When I no longer want to use it I sell it.

There are some vintage sports watches I wouldn't wear whilst diving but I wouldn't buy them for that reason.
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I have written my old 7548 hundreds of time in the ocean surfing, but I wouldn't dive with it, I wear my kinetic sun 23 for that our one of the new srp's ,I don't wear any of my 6309s in the water, too precious when I have lots of other candidates!

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this is my '65 Tudor Submariner:
I have no problem with water when I know the gaskets are ok and the case is in good shape. Of course it needs to be tested before.
And most of my watches are vintage divers, so they were made to be in water.


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What a great photo that is Merlin!
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What a great photo that is Merlin!
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What a great photo that is Merlin!
I second that! it's stashed in my wallpaper directory.

I agree that i'll wear a watch in any condition at any time. you'd guys cringe at how I wear 'em. LOL. if a friend of mine can wear a rolex 5510 digging a water ditch, I figure I can wear any watch while doing any activity as well =)

people still drive 200k+ Porsches and Ferraris when it rains, right?

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I don't wear my cushion case anywhere near water, i take if off to do the washing up and always double check my wrist, if i've been wearing it before I get in the bath or shower. I have my Citizen Monocase Diver and various G Shocks, which I wear regularly for swimming. Took me long enough to find an all original cushion case, I don't want that hunt again. Then again maybe it's just me being overly protective.

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regular maintenance is important...





...so as long as it's been recently serviced, yes!
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It is what they are ment to do.
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It's funny looking back now over all the years of wearing that first 7548.

I was never particularly careful and always wore it in water. I think I finally had the seals changed in 1995.

Other local watchmakers at the time told me they didn't have o-rings or gaskets and that only CoServ could do that.

I finally sent them the watch and they replaced everything except the case, case back and crown.

I'm sure the watch had been getting moisture inside.

Now, owning restored divers that have been re-sealed and pressure tested, I'm actually a little more careful.

I do occasionally dive in swimming pools as that's part of my job and I like to wear my watch during that.

I have scratched the top edge of a Golgo shroud, but I believe the watch was meant to be worn.
Oddly, I've not scratched or chipped any of my other diver shrouds which have all been coated in either black or blue pvd...only the Seiko coating has gotten damaged.

Thus far, no water leaks in any divers! I say wear them as intended if you have a screw down crown or a decent trip-loc conversion.

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I won't wear any vintage watch anywhere near water. If original parts are not still available at reasonable prices. Like dials and hands for example. I don't want to ruin a watch!
You can't beat a g-shock for swimming.
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