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Old 01-13-2017, 08:28 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I too like this model. I don't wear mine often but when I do it is quite comfortable.

What I think reduces the draw for some collectors is that it had the fate of being the 'update' to an iconic watch, the 6309-7049.

Had it been issued as say a 6XX9-7290 with change to the movement and movement number and issued with overlap in production to the 6309-7049 instead of being its replacement, then I think the detractor base would be much lesser in ranks.
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I was trying to find the original prices for 704x and 729x in 80s when they were new, but with no success.

The successor 7002 looks quite similar to 729x, there is even skx173 that looks similar, and the case shape stayed in production.

I think that are the reasons why the 704x models are more interesting and sought after.
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Old 01-13-2017, 10:52 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what the issue is with these. I have to say I love it. The dial is just that much more aesthetically pleasing compared to the dial of the 7002-7000 due to the extra width of the date window to incorporate the day wheel, which adds something to the dial shape and text.

I love how these have the 7548 hands and I imagine that these are the originals to the watch and that they were like that on the earliest 1982 examples. Mario may be able to shed some light on this?

Also I am not sure Hrvoje that it would make sense to change the hands to the 7548 type when the 7002 had the same curved shape as the SKX. Which I notice is said in the 6309 buying guide and I'm not sure is correct or pertaining to the slim 6309 where it says that 'the 6309 (when talking about the first generation) hands are completely flat, unlike the replacements which resembled the SKX and 7002', I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it.

Should it not be the oyher way round when talking about the 6309 cushion compared to this 7290? Most if not all of the 6309-7040s I've seen have had the shaped hands (close to the later 7002/SKX look) and in fact wasn't there a topic on this a while back where cushion 6309s were 'modded' with 7548 hands as the look - as achieved by the 6309-7290 and of course the 7548-700x - was more appealing to the eye?

I dunno... And I'm rambling... But I think Jon might have a point about the ugly sister scenario, and maybe that Mick bleedin' Jagger didn't wear one! I also wonder that because of so many out there that were modded it puts buyers off. The subtleties of the 7002-7000 and 6309-7290 aftermarket dials would surely put me off
Much like the very, very good aftermarket dial seikosis makes for the 6105, it's really so close that if I was getting into it I would be too worried about spending so much on a watch with what essentially is a dial made a few years back costing a tenner..

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I think It's all down to different taste
Some day I wear my 7049 and other days the 7290. Lately I wear my 7002 the most.
I personally like most vintage seiko divers. I like each one for different reasons.
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I would also like to hear what others think about hands on 704x vs 729x vs 7002.

I can only say for myself that the fact that Mick of R.Stones wore that watch is a TURN OFF for me.

I like some of songs performed by R. Stones, but I don't like Mick. Even if I liked him, it wouldn't made sthg that he had more desirable, that's idolatry.
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Agreed Paul. Infact this one for me was the final quest for the range of divers I've wanted.

6105-8009
6105-8110
6306-7001
6309-7290
7548-7000
7548-700b
7002-7000
7002-7039

And that does it for me. Of course I'd love a 6159 but that's too much and I've had a 62MAS and sold it on. But all these are ones I have finally achieved as was my goal. A SKX007 will have to be added at some point but from this point forth I will be wanting to get better at maintaining the movements and reluming so it'll be beaters and 20 quid gambles on eBay I think!
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I would also like to hear what others think about hands on 704x vs 729x vs 7002.

I can only say for myself that the fact that Mick of R.Stones wore that watch is a TURN OFF for me.

I like some of songs performed by R. Stones, but I don't like Mick. Even if I liked him, it wouldn't made sthg that he had more desirable, that's idolatry.
Heh I agree. Wasn't into the Stones I was more a Doors fan or Bob Dylan, Nick Drake, Pink Floyd etc. Although my era was all about Portishead, Radiohead, Nirvana Jeff Buckley and Massive Attack.
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I feel the same way Guy.
I have the watches I always wanted, now I am buying cheaper watches to repair or restore for fun.
It is nice to save a vintage watch from possibly been thrown out.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:00 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I become so happy each time I see a 729x in such condition. Congrats on finding this gem :-)
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Ty Seikoskar. It really is a lovely condition example. Very proud owner.
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Just got another.

Seller's photos and I knew it looked correct, battered crystal.


When it arrived the crown came free from the small nut and washer that sit inside it, so I easily replaced the crown gasket and then pressed home the nut and washe on top of the gasket. Whilst I was at it I cleaned the case and changed caseback and rotaing ring gaskets with one of John's. I don't have any new crystals (thought I had two along with an SKX somewhere, but I can't find them, does that happen to anyone else?!) so I replaced the crystal with an OK example from a 7548 that Duncan changed when he serviced it. Much better and Liking the watch a lot. Movement is in excellent condition and seems accurate but I'll probably give this a 'service' (if that's what I may call it). Really love these. I made the seller a low offer compared to the asking price and surprisingly it was accepted, probably due to the scratches and the issue with the crown and also it wasn't an accurate listing. Close, but no mention of model.

Here it is, photos not the best. Nice original, though.







Not as nice as the other I got featured on the previous page, which was perfect, but I can wear this with a little less caution. Must change the crystal soon, though!

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Very nice Guy. I really like these slim case 6309's. I reckon good ones are harder to find than the -704x versions. I'm happy to buy them as nice as that all day long.
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Yeh a few have popped up recently. Not as well known as the 'normal' 6309 so they don't charge ott for them. I've said it before that I think these are excellent. Last of the 6 series, first of the mechanical slim case versions that would become the 7002 and SKX, and I think the dial and hands look excellent with the lume shape along with the flat 7548 hands, but in combination with the lollypop hand.

There was a nice jdm version aswell, sold for 106. What a bargain and 6 more than I paid for this one. Puts spending 170 on SKXs in perspective for me, and they're pretty cheap aswell.
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Yep, I prefer the flatter hands and 6 series movement to a 7002 anyday. And I like my 7002 quite a bit. Excellent work, thanks for the pics. Is it just me or are the lume plots on yours (inside the silver paint) shaped to look like a 6105 dial? On my 6309 and 7002 the lume is perfectly rectangular, like the surrounding silver edge, not with those subtle irregularities.

I know that Seiko experimented with different lume compounds but this is different.



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Very, very nice Guy! Looks to be all original to itself.
Congratulations on a great find!
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I noticed that too 60clicks. Especially the shorter triangle of the 12 o'clock plot.

Slightly out of whack lume printing? Certainly appealing due to the comparison of maybe the older models. There is definitely something about these that feels good. Maybe the way the angular lume plots and the hands complement each other. The 6309 original knurled bezel compared to the 7002 and SKX etc but on a slim case like the 7548. Only naturally mechanical and with a pretty iconic movement.

Was gonna buy a crystal today but can't afford it just yet. Prices of reproductions are quite high. Hmm there must be a way of doing this cheaper than KVWR and Crystal Times!
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Very, very nice Guy! Looks to be all original to itself.
Congratulations on a great find!
Thanks Reynaldo!
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Just got another.

Seller's photos and I knew it looked correct, battered crystal.


When it arrived the crown came free from the small nut and washer that sit inside it, so I easily replaced the crown gasket and then pressed home the nut and washe on top of the gasket. Whilst I was at it I cleaned the case and changed caseback and rotaing ring gaskets with one of John's. I don't have any new crystals (thought I had two along with an SKX somewhere, but I can't find them, does that happen to anyone else?!) so I replaced the crystal with an OK example from a 7548 that Duncan changed when he serviced it. Much better and Liking the watch a lot. Movement is in excellent condition and seems accurate but I'll probably give this a 'service' (if that's what I may call it). Really love these. I made the seller a low offer compared to the asking price and surprisingly it was accepted, probably due to the scratches and the issue with the crown and also it wasn't an accurate listing. Close, but no mention of model.

Here it is, photos not the best. Nice original, though.







Not as nice as the other I got featured on the previous page, which was perfect, but I can wear this with a little less caution. Must change the crystal soon, though!
Very nice Guy!
I have just fitted nos hands to mine as the original one's were a bit crusty.
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Cheers Paul. Yeh these are my new favourite....
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Cheers Paul. Yeh these are my new favourite....
I keep seeing all original one's on eBay at good prices.
Its hard to pass on them but I have tried to reduce my collection lately to one of each different watch.
So I will stick to one for now.
Yes, they are great watches.
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I agree. My other was a little bit if a concern to wear, although I still will, so this is the last one. They have come up now and again recently surprisingly. Just had a good look at your pic there and it looks very good Paul.

No more spending for a bit for me though.
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I agree. My other was a little bit if a concern to wear, although I still will, so this is the last one. They have come up now and again recently surprisingly. Just had a good look at your pic there and it looks very good Paul.

No more spending for a bit for me though.
Same here, no more buying watches for a while. I am going to concentrate on fixing, servicing the ones I have in reserve.
I also have a couple of nice vintage dress watches coming in the post that need fixing.
All these should keep me busy for a while.
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This one showed up this morning, case parts got a quick ultrasonic bath and new gaskets, barrel arbors are blown but it runs...



stop buying and fix them, that's the part I like the least...
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This one showed up this morning, case parts got a quick ultrasonic bath and new gaskets, barrel arbors are blown but it runs...



stop buying and fix them, that's the part I like the least...
Nice original watch!
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