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Old 07-16-2011, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Are these really made in Japan, or is the dial only made in Japan? I assume the movement is the standard 7s26 which is not made in Japan. Please discuss.
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Only the words "Made in Japan" - are made in Japan.
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This is one where a little search of the forum archives will yield the answer. none of the SKX divers are made in Japan.
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Only the words "Made in Japan" - are made in Japan.
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Only the words "Made in Japan" - are made in Japan.

not even the words are made in Japan


However, there are 7s26 movements made in Japan (or at least there where) and also in other countries.

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The movement is made in Morioka... That's all. In the country(s) where they're destined to be sold (in the middle east), by law, and by these standards, Seiko can label them as made in Japan, and that sells watches, so they do. Different markets have different requirements.
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[size=1.35em]The movement is made in Morioka... That's all. In the country(s) where they're destined to be sold (in the middle east), by law, and by these standards, Seiko can label them as made in Japan, and that sells watches, so they do. Different markets have different requirements.
Are you saying that all 7s26 movements are made in Japan(Morioka) and the watches simply assembled elsewhere; Singapore, Malaysia, etc. ?
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What is this I heard as a child...when japanese goods were still considered inferior vs. US made....I heard that Japan invented a town with the name of "USA", so whenever aa cheap toy said "Made in USA" with no periods in the U.S.A., they were japanese...
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What is this I heard as a child...when japanese goods were still considered inferior vs. US made....I heard that Japan invented a town with the name of "USA", so whenever aa cheap toy said "Made in USA" with no periods in the U.S.A., they were japanese...
Yes that was used for a while but the town is not made up...use google maps to find USA, JAPAN

As a small boy in the 1950s, I remember having a small red tin car that had Made in USA on it. My father told me that it was not made in the U.S.A. but rather in Japan.
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Are you saying that all 7s26 movements are made in Japan(Morioka) and the watches simply assembled elsewhere; Singapore, Malaysia, etc. ?
No, what I'm saying is that SOME 7s26 WERE made in Morioka. The ones marked JAPAN on the rotor were assembled there, and others in Malaysia etc. They've been discontinued for months now, so it's a moot point.
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No, what I'm saying is that SOME 7s26 WERE made in Morioka. The ones marked JAPAN on the rotor were assembled there, and others in Malaysia etc. They've been discontinued for months now, so it's a moot point.
Interesting...so is the 4r15 now the 7s26 replacement caliber?
It makes sense since the two movements are almost identical with the exception of a few changed parts to give the 4r15 a greater reserve and potentially a better performance.
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Interesting...so is the 4r15 now the 7s26 replacement caliber?
It makes sense since the two movements are almost identical with the exception of a few changed parts to give the 4r15 a greater reserve and potentially a better performance.
I doubt that.
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So were the SKX's before the 007 like the 7002 made in Japan or not at all?
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I doubt that.
Doubt what?
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Doubt what?
That! ;D
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That! ;D
That is debatable )
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So were the SKX's before the 007 like the 7002 made in Japan or not at all?
There where no SKXs made prior to the ones we know and love. The 7002 divers carried different model numbers. Seiko has been producing intro level divers in china to one degree or another since the days of the 6309-7049. And no, they are of no lesser quality than those they produce in Japan. I think you might want to brush up a little on your background. Do take some time to read through the articles in the archive. I think you'll find that they will fill in many of the points you don't seem entirely well versed on.
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. I would think that 4r15/16 and/or 4r35 are the likely successors - followed by the 4r36 when it arrives. Yeoman did some dial up timing on the 4r35's and two different examples were -4sec a day dial up, which shows that Seiko were definitely throwing red herrings around regarding accuracy (not to mention duration).
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I could not find any information to support the claim that Japan named a town USA. Though I did find information to the contrary.


http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp


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That is debatable )
Debatable what? Or how?
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Debatable what? Or how?
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That, what, who, how...they're all debatable
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There where no SKXs made prior to the ones we know and love. The 7002 divers carried different model numbers. Seiko has been producing intro level divers in china to one degree or another since the days of the 6309-7049. And no, they are of no lesser quality than those they produce in Japan. I think you might want to brush up a little on your background. Do take some time to read through the articles in the archive. I think you'll find that they will fill in many of the points you don't seem entirely well versed on.
I will since I finally have some time today to.
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Doubt what?
Why would the 7s26 movements be replaced? they're workhorses that have built a great reputation, so I doubt they'll be replaced by a successor unless Seiko wants them to be.
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Seiko has had a tradition or marketing strategy of replacing calibres on a 10 year cycle.
The 7sxx caliber was introduced in 1996 and has been going strong until this year.

The 6r15 would have been the logical replacement but Seiko wants to position it higher up the price ladder so the 4r15 was introduced. From all appearances, it is really nothing more than a 7sxx with one extra jewel and a longer power reserve. The balance system looks to be the same as that found in the 6r15 and the 7s26B.

The 4R15 is showing up in basically entry level watches compared to the much more expensive watches hosting the 6r15.
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There is also "21 jewels" printed on the dial, that's erally nice
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